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Google could kill YouTube Vanced for good::The company is exploring an integrity API that could lock down WebViews with DRM

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[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 16 points 10 months ago (4 children)

If you aren’t paying them for Premium, or viewing their ads, you’re literally costing them money. They’d rather stop you from even consuming the bandwidth.

[–] Player2@sopuli.xyz 38 points 10 months ago (2 children)

On the other hand, they are spending real money on development time to fight against an army of independents doing it for fun or personal satisfaction. That's throwing money into a hole they can never fill up

[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Yeah, as someone in ops in another industry I would just chaulk this up to the cost of doing business, cut my losses, and move on. I can’t imagine most people are using ad blockers.

[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I doubt they think about the "army of independents" much at all.

[–] Player2@sopuli.xyz 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

With the multiple updates per day they've been hammering out against the ublock origin devs, I would disagree with that. Can't think of a way they would be accidentally hashing it out against each other per matter of hours

[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

They want to get paid, I just don't think they see any competitor as a threat.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well, that part is working really well. I've been using YouTube less and less every time they've worsened the free service. I don't even bother with the revanced loopholes, I'll just don't use YouTube to find stuff. Most of the content is made for monetisation purposes anyway.

I'm not saying they shouldn't do it, or that I don't understand why. It's just a prime example of the internet going to shit.

[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 0 points 10 months ago

I'm not disagreeing you, just stating the facts. If we aren't paying for it, and not watching their ads, we can't expect to be considered at all. I paid for Premium for a few months, just canceled it while I catch up on some other things. We still have the freedom to pick and choose which services we pay for which is fine by me.

[–] bitwaba@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If you give thumbs ups and add comments, you're still providing user generated content that increases the value of the content you watched, so they're still getting something out of it. Your contributions could go on to drive someone else to watch the video which could end up seeing the ad you blocked.

It's a question of what that value is that you've provided to the service. It's the same question Reddit will be finding out the answers to over the next couple months.

[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 0 points 10 months ago

You can try to look it up if you want, but I'd suspect those sort of interactions are fractions of a penny on the dollar compared to revenue from Premium or Ads.

[–] CmdrShepard@lemmy.one 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Does it really cost them? If we take it to the extreme and say everyone collectively decided to stop costing them money by watching their content for free, what would that do to the value of their platform?

[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes, Bandwidth, servers, storage are all expensive. If everyone stopped paying or seeing ads they'd kill the product and you'd have nothing. There is no viable replacement for YouTube. Most channels would cease to exist. Only the larger ones would be able to afford to figure out how to keep going. The ladder would be pulled up for any small or new creator looking to break in.

[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It would suck but things would go on. I'm sure other places like tiktok would salivate at the idea of a YouTube exodus. Also there's other platforms that would gladly have, at least, subsections of YouTube. Plenty of other places to post your gaming videos.

[–] phillaholic@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Letting TikTok win is not good. Unless something has changed, they pay shit to creators too.

[–] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago

I agree with you, it was more a point of YouTube needing us more than we need them.