I've noticed, the less diverse a population is, the more racist they become while the rest of the world focuses on nations who actually have to deal with diversity. US, Sweden, etc.

[–] sobriquet@aussie.zone 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

As an Australian, I honestly don’t disagree with you… but suggesting Sweden has more racial diversity than Australia?! From what i can see, Sweden has “6% diversity”, whereas Australia has 9%. Not a huge difference, granted, but completely different ballpark to USA (49%), and if this is your measure, Australia still “beats” Sweden.

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

That’s pretty inaccurate as well. Australia is diverse, but we don’t explicitly track ethnicities demographics so you’ll never find an official figure

To quote the wiki and ABS stats

Although the ABS does not collect data on race and ethnic background, various studies have put together results of the census to determine the ethnic composition of Australia, the Australian Human Rights Commission has estimated the European population at 76% of the Australian population,[20] while a media diversity study put it at 72%, the non-European proportion was 21% and 23% respectively, and the Aboriginal Australian population at 3% in both

So roughly 25%.

Add to that 30% of the population is born overseas (compared to 13% US), so 1/4 people you meet will be diverse in a non-skin identifiable way. And 50% of the country have at least one parent born overseas, so families are pretty diverse.

Fun fact, we’re also the only country in the world with a higher rate of Americans immigrating in than we are going to America.

[–] sobriquet@aussie.zone 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, I wasn’t claiming it was a highly accurate source, and I was surprised that we rated so low based on those calculations, so thanks for the additional analysis. I just found it hard to believe that Sweden would be “dealing with diversity” more than Australia (or at least, in any significant way). Maybe there’s more nuance to Sweden’s numbers, too?

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Saying Sweden has to deal with diversity sounds like a massive dog whistle about Muslims tbh. Assume the America inclusion is much the same.

They’re probably just some racist wanker now that I come to think of it.

[–] sobriquet@aussie.zone 1 points 10 months ago

Seems plausible.

[–] stella@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

How are you 'measuring diversity'?

Are you including the entire country, or just certain parts?

If it's the entire country, then Australians still don't have to deal with diversity because most of their minorities live away from the white people.

[–] sobriquet@aussie.zone 2 points 10 months ago

I’m not measuring it, just quoting another source. I just wanted to find some numbers to try and understand how Sweden and Australia compare.

If it's the entire country, then Australians still don't have to deal with diversity because most of their minorities live away from the white people.

You make an excellent point.

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What are you on about?

Nearly half the country lives in just two cities, and the other 50% in like 3 more. And our “suburbs” are varied as fuck and based on income more than any other factor.

[–] stella@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

are varied as fuck and based on income more than any other factor.

Yes, I'm talking about ethnic diversity.

Nearly half the country lives in just two cities, and the other 50% in like 3 more.

Where do the minorities tend to live?

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 0 points 10 months ago

Where do the minorities tend to live?

The same few cities as the rest of us?

Do you assume that the rich suburbs are also not home to minorities? Like it's not insanely difficult to immigrate here, meaning that it's generally those who are already relatively wealthy making the move over? We all live relatively co-mingled amongst each other.

Also why do you think of multiculturalism as a burden that one needs to "deal" with?

[–] zik@zorg.social 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

As an Australian who's travelled a fair bit I'd say the level of racism in Australia varies depending on where you are and most parts of the world I've visited are more racist than the major cities of Australia. But that's just my personal observation.

[–] ChannelSix@aussie.zone 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Isn't that a fairly racist / prejudice comment in itself?

[–] Hugin@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There is a difference between race and culture even if we tend to use the same words for both. I have a friends who is racially Chinese but was born and raised in the UK so very British culturaly.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 0 points 10 months ago

You should be telling that to the first commenter. The second person was mimicking the language used above.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It is important to use precise language. “Australians are racist.” is simply false if even one Australian is not…. So you should instead say, “Many Australians are racist.” or “Most Australians are racist.” or “On average, Australians are racist.” Those claims may or may not be true.

Also, if you make a claim like that with no source except your own experience, it’s safe to assume you’re wrong, that you are extrapolating when you should be doing research instead. Australia is a big country and you have met a small fraction of the people in it.

[–] stella@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Lol.