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[-] luthis@lemmy.nz 21 points 11 months ago

I expect downvotes and deletion.

Left vs right wing politics. Both are the same. The real conflict is between powerful and powerless. Both sides claim to be fighting against this, while pitting the middle class against either the upper (left) or lower (right) classes.

[-] novibe@lemmy.ml 31 points 11 months ago

The “left” in the US is really actually center-right. And the “right” is far-right. So yes, both the “left” and “right” in the US are basically the same. Neoliberalism is just fascism with a smart suit and empty platitudes after all.

But saying the left and right are the same when talking about political ideology (and not the political landscape of the USA) is extremely wrong.

The right wants to conserve existing power structures or revert to previous ones. The left wants to dismantle power structures and bring about egalitarianism.

That is the dichotomy. To the right hierarchy, to the left egalitarianism.

The USA has been the subject of the most powerful and long lasting propaganda machine and psyops in history.

[-] glimse@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago

It'll get downvoted because it's an extremely cold Enlightened Centrist take. You're cherry picking one, albeit major, thing they have in common and ignoring the difference between the policies they enact.

Yes at the end of the day the real battle is absolutely between the 99% and 1% but to pretend that there is no discernable difference between the two major parties is asinine.

[-] Ilikecheese@lemm.ee 17 points 11 months ago

It depends on if you’re talking about left vs right politicians or left vs right political viewpoints. If you’re talking about viewpoints, I absolutely disagree with what you’re saying. If you’re talking about politicians, especially in the US, then sadly, you’re mostly correct. The left say they want to make tons of changes but when push comes to shove, there’s enough money in politics to stop any real changes from happening no matter which party is supposedly in charge.

[-] RustedSwitch@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I would add that this is only true in general, and on a sliding scale. There are some pure of heart on both sides. True conservatives that mean well, and true progressives.

[-] ediculous@lemmy.fmhy.ml 4 points 11 months ago

Not sure why you're being downvoted, what you said is false.

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

They said "I expect downvotes" and people have downvoted, so it wasn't false so people are downvoting it.

[-] ediculous@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 11 months ago

I was just trying to be cute

[-] fuzzybee@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

Yes, that sounds true, but is false.

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