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    [โ€“] wfh@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Still, 100% nVidia's fault, not Wayland.

    No offense, but your argument is exactly like "electric cars are still undercooked and not ready for proper daily use because I still have to put gasoline in mine and can't afford one".

    [โ€“] russjr08@outpost.zeuslink.net 6 points 1 year ago

    Sure, but at the end of the day, for better or for worse, there are going to be tons of people who simply don't care about whose fault it is - they're going to want their system to work.

    I was lucky enough that I was finally able to make enough money to swap out my 2080 with a 6700 XT this week (and wow what a significant difference in how the Linux desktop works with AMD cards), but I have plenty of friends who do have Nvidia cards and if they asked me whether they should give Linux a try I'd have to warn them that they're going to get a subpar experience due to it - and all they're going to hear despite me saying that it's Nvidia's fault is that Linux isn't good enough.

    So when it comes to Wayland + Nvidia, hopefully Nvidia gets with the program, but otherwise we're (the Linux community) going to be at a crossroads of whether we want to get more adoption on Linux - Nvidia is not a small market by any means.

    I don't go and try to proselytize people into coming over to Linux, but there are absolutely plenty of people who do and the mindset of "It's not Linux's fault, its X (ha)" isn't exactly going to work there.

    I get it, you get it, but plenty of people won't.