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Israeli PM said to have turned down proposal in early talks and continues to take tough line

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[–] snek@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The headline says nothing about the number nor implies anything.

This is why you need to read the rest of an article.

[–] mwguy@infosec.pub -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The hostages are a group that's assumed to be complete. That's like if someone stole your tires off your car and offered to give "your tires" back to you but only 2 of the 4. People assume they offered all the tires if the headline doesn't say otherwise.

If you include the partial hostage release, it essentially robs the story as it's clear why you wouldn't do a deal for some of the hostages. Making any deal for some of the hostages is stupid.

[–] snek@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think this is dumb. The title didn't say all hostages. The article didn't say all hostages. You invented this in your own head then decided to build an argument around it.

[–] mwguy@infosec.pub -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean future articles covering it have said things like "Ceasefire for $x hostages rejected" for exactly this reason.

[–] snek@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sure but your case is still weak and honestly not even there.

[–] mwguy@infosec.pub -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Ceasefire-for-hostages"

Would you assume that they're asking for a ceasefire in a percentage of the territory or the full territory?

[–] snek@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] mwguy@infosec.pub 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's not the truth. When you hear the title: "Netanyahu rejected ceasefire-for-hostages deal in Gaza, sources say"

Do you assume that it's 40% of the hostages for a ceasefire im 40% of the territory?

[–] snek@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think if you want the truth then stop being lazy and read the whole article instead of getting your information from misinterpreting headlines.

[–] mwguy@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I did. That's why I pointed out the misleading headline as a comment. Had I not read the article I would have assumed that it was a ceasefire in 100% of the territory for 100% of the Hostages that Israel turned down.

Just like you would have.

[–] snek@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just like you would have

Nope. But whatever you need to say to make yourself feel better.

[–] mwguy@infosec.pub 0 points 1 year ago

If you'd have thought a different amount, you'd have said it when i pointed it out.