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[–] soybison@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah that would make sense if there weren’t other options. iPhones are basically the poster child for conspicuous consumption. They’re expensive, flashy, objectively worse than the competition, and have a shadier production chain historically than other brands. Even using an old iPhone is an option that doesn’t contribute to issues caused by global capitalism. These products when properly cared for could last a life time and yet…

~ Posted from my relatively new iPhone

[–] webghost0101@lemmy.fmhy.ml 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We cant all own a Fairphone and credit where credit is due, Privacy wise apple seem to be the most professional big corp around.

Privacy is always something to consider for those involved in activism.

[–] fedfedfedd@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We cant all own a Fairphone

Why not? Whats stopping you?

[–] webghost0101@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well i can, and i kinda want to. Though my current phone is far from dead and i tend to make em last.

But if every anti capitalist is gonna need one then production could never keep up. Because people genuinely need a phone for participating in society they cant wait months when their current one breaks.

It would be a clear incentive for fairphone to expand production and as we all know greed corrupts.

We need more corporations like fairphone.

[–] fedfedfedd@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They are for sale so there is zero excuse not to buy one instead of an iphone until they run out.

Create demand and production will happen. Something something capitalism.

[–] adroidBalloon@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

espousing capitalist principles to fight capitalism while criticizing someone for engaging in capitalism simply because you dislike/disapprove of their choice of smartphone rings a bit disingenuous to me.

a single choice by a single person isn't really "fighting capitalism" in any meaningful way, certainly not by doing anything more than making a symbolic gesture. Fairphones do much more to support user privacy, open-source software, the right to repair, and consumer choice than anything else.

edit: spelling

[–] webghost0101@lemmy.fmhy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I am still a big supported of fair phone btw. I am just not gonna buy a new phone if the current one works fine. If it breaks i will wage my needs and options.

[–] AdlachGyfiawn@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

You're saying we should try ethically consuming under capitalism? Novel.

[–] relative_iterator@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

At least the iPhone has a much better track record for privacy and security.

[–] PapyrusOsiris@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago

Security through obscurity is no security at all. You've fallen for the marketing if you think apple cares about your privacy any more than any other big tech company.

[–] Zeeroover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago

All alternatives are capitalist too. Even the Fairphone. If anyone thinks different they might want to consider to look up what capitalism means.

[–] soybison@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

You’re right! And the reason why is because they have to compete in a public competition!