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JERUSALEM (AP) — The head of surgery at Gaza’s largest and most advanced hospital held up his phone Saturday to the hammering of gunfire and artillery shelling. “Listen,” said Dr. Marwan Abu Sada as fighting raged around Shifa Hospital.

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[–] Critical_Insight@feddit.uk -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There's two kinds of people; ones that use human shields and ones that are deterred by them. Atleast to a point.

[–] Count042@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Israel uses human shields. Operation Cast lead is what human shields looks like.

Stop justifying war crime in defense of an apartheid ethno state trying to commit genocide.

[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That was 15 years ago, and I see absolutely no mention of Israeli human shields anywhere regarding Cast Lead.

[–] Count042@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

https://www.amnesty.org/en/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/mde150152009en.pdf

Page 48.

Israel does a good job of making the world forget their actions.

According to testimonies, in several cases Israeli forces also forced unarmed Palestinian civilian males (mostly adults but in two cases also children) to serve as “human shields”, including making them walk in front of armed soldiers; go into buildings to check for booby traps or gunmen; and inspect suspicious objects for explosives. These practices are not new. Numerous such cases have been documented in recent years and the Israeli Supreme Court has ruled that such practices contradict International law and prohibited them in October 2005.73

[–] jackpot@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Critical_Insight@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It's no accident Hamas keeps their HQ's and ammunition depots near civilian population aswell as regularly shoots rockets from near mosks and hospitals. They know Israel is atleast trying to minimize civilian casualties so they're probably not going to just level that building without a warning as they would if it was located in the desert.

If Hamas had the military capabilities that Israel does and Israel would put their military HQ in the basement of Israeli hospital hoping to use their own population as human shields Hamas could not care less. They would level that building in a heartbeat and collateral damage would just be a bonus.

[–] YeeterPan@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I do not think 10,000+ dead is "trying to minimize civilian casualties"

[–] Critical_Insight@feddit.uk -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Israel has the capability to level both Gaza and West bank in a week and kill every single person in there. They haven't. What would Hamas do if they had this capability?

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If they actually did that the entirety of West Asia and North Africa would attack them and all their allies would abandon them.

So actually, no, Israel doesn't have that capability.

[–] rigatti@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You seem to have a different understanding of capability than I do. They could do it, so they have the capability, but that says nothing about the consequences.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

No, they would be dogpiled as they did it. They wouldn't be able to finish the job before the whole world ate them alive.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Hamas killed around 1100 israelis on Oct 7.

Israel killed at least 122 of the 1200 themselves. Most likely more

350 of the israelis killed were IDF

This mean the civilian casualty rate was around 70%. On Oct 7.

Hamas has a far better civilian casualty rate than America which goes around 80-90 while committing their supposed genocide attack. This is not an accident you can realize by blind firing into civilian areas.

Purely from these numbers we can conclude in ACTIONS not words that Hamas takes decent care to avoid civilian deaths even when attacking. Far better than israel which just bombs everything that moves.