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[–] PrefersAwkward@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Well they do lose some business in the Linux world to their issues and will probably take some time to recover their reputation in the Linux desktop community. I know not everyone hates them and the Linux Desktop community isn't huge right now, but there is some incentive to show the world you care about your customers

And if Linux Desktop ever gets super popular and easy for everyone but Nvidia, that's not a necessary risk Nvidia should take. And the catching up later on could be really slow and painful if Nvidia lets themselves get even further behind. GPUs are among the most complicated hardware components to support and develop drivers and other software for.

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The Linux systems where Nvidia makes money don't use Wayland.

As for desktop Linux... I have a feeling it might not be at the top of their priorities right now. To put it delicately.

[–] Chewy7324@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 11 months ago

Agreed. But it seems like since around two years ago Nvidia finally got the memo that Wayland will happen with GBM, and not EGLStreams. So with the recent changelogs fixing many issues I'm optimistic about Wayland on Nvidia.

[–] PrefersAwkward@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I agree desktop is not top priority. And I know their money largely comes outside Desktop. In fact, I would be surprised if consumer products came close to their b2b products. Just saying they have more than zero incentive to care about the Linux desktop. And apparently, Nvidia agrees, because they are finally putting more effort in.

I still use and recommend AMD for Linux desktop, and I'm hoping Intel will become competitive in that space so we have more options and competition. I personally don't like how closed off, uninvolved, and impassive Nvidia has been in general and I don't trust them in general to collaborate much, as shown by their history.

[–] utopiah@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I would be surprised if consumer products came close to their b2b products

FWIW NVIDIA Q1 2023 Sankey from Motley Fool https://eu.usatoday.com/story/money/2023/05/30/nvidia-shares-stock-prices-soar/70264847007/ shows data center being 2x gaming.

[–] PrefersAwkward@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

That sounds about right