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2020 was... truly unique. It was so hard to stay away from doom scrolling, and I (and many others) were pretty disillusioned by the sad fact that so much of our country legitimately supported the Orange Man. I didn't get a wink of sleep the night of the election because I genuinely considered it to be a make or break decision for America.

My point is that looking back on it, in the end the only real difference I made was at the ballet box. This year I'm going for the Head-in-the-Sand approach. I'm done with the political memes. Done with the Twitter screenshots. It just riles me up and this year I'm gonna do my best to fight that.

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[–] Joker@discuss.tchncs.de 107 points 11 months ago (2 children)

If Trump is the Republican nominee I would vote for Biden even if he was dead.

[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Honestly, which one of the other candidates would you vote for in Trump's stead? All of them suck and kiss trump's ass.

[–] Joker@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 11 months ago (3 children)

None of them this time around. Christie is a moderate, but he will be out pretty soon. I’m surprised he’s hung on this long, although I’m happy that he has because he and Hutchinson are the only ones with the guts to tell the truth about Trump. Hutchinson hasn’t been polling high enough to be in the debates, but at least he’s on the sidelines saying Trump is trash.

Out of the declared candidates, my preference would probably be Christie or Haley as the nominee. I still wouldn’t vote for them, but they would be better than the others if the Republicans somehow win.

Overall, it’s a pretty piss poor field on both sides. If Biden was 15 years younger I would consider it a pretty solid ticket.

I hope Antony Blinken eventually runs. For me, he’s the brightest star in a pretty solid administration. Best Secretary of State in decades.

[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I realize you said this, but I still have to clarify what a dumpster fire that whole field is on that side.

I still wouldn’t vote for them, but they would be better than the others if the Republicans somehow win.

Christie is as petty as trump, he held up ambulances and shit to get back at someone. He also let his employees take the blame for him for that. He shut down a beach and decided it was a good idea to take himself and his family to his own private beach. The only reason he stands up to trump is because he wasn't picked as trump's vp. He's a POS, imo.

Haley seems to still have ties to russia: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/haley-us-forces-align-countries-including-russia-campaign-99816163 I knew she did, but she still does too. Plus, she's a woman, there's no way in hell she'll get enough votes.

I don't know anything about Blinken, I'll look into it.

[–] dingus@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

He may be as petty as Trump, but at least he has never planned a coup to overthrow the freaking government. A Republican willing to call out Trump for his bullshit is better than those that continue to lick his asshole imo. Sure it's a low bar to meet and Christie has a whole other bag of problems, but sadly most don't seem to get to that bar.

[–] Ashyr@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

Christie only did that because there’s literally no other way to make himself stand out from other Republicans.

[–] prole@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Christie is a piece of shit. Ask anyone alive in Jersey during his tenure. Fuck that guy, he should be in fucking prison. There are people literally serving time behind some shit he did.

[–] Joker@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 11 months ago

Just goes to show how bad the rest of the field is when he’s the voice of reason on the debate stage.

[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Haley is literally a war monger. She stated she wanted us to get into 3 active wars, with China, Russia and Iran.

You would vote for the candidate who is most likely to start WW3???

[–] Joker@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 11 months ago

No. I said I would not vote for her, although I view her as less problematic than Trump, Ramaswamy and DeSantis. It’s a terrible field. I mean, you’ve got a fascist, a racist and whatever the hell kind of nutcase Ramaswamy is. It’s hard to get on a stage with DeSantis and be the bigger asshole. Haley is none of those things so that’s a start. One of these people has to be the nominee.

[–] atlasraven31@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] PeleSpirit@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sure, if you want to waste time and vote as if you didn't vote at all.

[–] atlasraven31@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

That's how it typically goes.

[–] popcap200@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago