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Pretty much the subject line. uBO has successfully blocked the nag screen enough times that I can't play anything at this point. No preview loads, and the play button serves no function. I'd really prefer not to have to find content on YT, copy the URL and use Piped/Invidious, but this ongoing escalation is steeling my resolve to screw Google.

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[–] flumph@programming.dev 15 points 1 year ago (5 children)

You could pay for the service with cash instead of ad views. Works on all devices without having to set up an adblocking VPN or Pi-Hole.

[–] anothermember@beehaw.org 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't think you can be sure they're not profiling you for advertising on other sites just because they're not showing ads on YouTube. The purpose of uBO is security. Plus I wouldn't give money to a shady company like Google anyway.

[–] clgoh@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I hope you are contributing to the content creators in other ways, then.

[–] anothermember@beehaw.org 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I am, as it happens, but I don't feel under any obligation to.

Firstly, how they get paid is a private matter between them and YouTube, they signed their contracts, not me.

Secondly, YouTube could run privacy-respecting non-targeted ads. I'm not punishing YouTube for having ads, I'm punishing them for being spyware.

[–] flumph@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

YouTube doesn't stop you from using uBO if you're paying.

[–] tesseract@beehaw.org 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think the 'shady company' part of paying is an important consideration.

[–] anothermember@beehaw.org 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Correct, if they weren't user-hostile, it would have been more likely I would have built up some good-will towards them and would be happy to pay.

[–] tesseract@beehaw.org 6 points 11 months ago

For everyone who feels righteous by paying YouTube for content, here are some things to consider:

  1. A part of your payment goes to Google - who is involved in unethical and often illegal subversion of privacy and user rights on the internet by corruption of the very foundations of the web.

  2. They're coming up with their 'content is not free' argument after they've killed off all their competitors. They're in a position to demand because they played a bait-and-switch and succeeded in it.

I'm not against paid services, and especially not against paying the content creators. But when you pay a crook for their services, you bear responsibility for their actions.

[–] pkulak@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s what I do. Works great. Or don’t pay and don’t use it. Crazy talk, I know!

[–] tesseract@beehaw.org 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Congratulations on doing your part in helping a filthy spyware company ruin the web for everyone with their corruption of browsers and the web standards.

[–] pkulak@beehaw.org 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I never use Chrome or anything Chromium based. You sound like you use Brave.

But if someone offers me an entertainment service at a price, I pay, or don’t use it. You’re not some noble pirate, you’re just a cheap ass who wants to consume other people’s hard work for free.

[–] admin@beehaw.org 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Please, remember our only rule here at Beehaw -> Be(e) nice. Name-calling is NOT nice.

[–] pkulak@beehaw.org 2 points 11 months ago

Got it. My bad.

[–] tesseract@beehaw.org 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

You sound like you use Brave.

You assumed wrong.

But if someone offers me an entertainment service at a price, I pay, or don’t use it.

Oh boy! Another one with the comprehension skills of a mole rat! Where did I say don't pay the artist? What I don't like is the pimp middleman in between.

You’re not some noble pirate, you’re just a cheap ass who wants to consume other people’s hard work for free.

Says the shill who parrots the words of an abusive and corrupt corporation. Go look at the mirror and call them cheap ass. You are just a self-righteous idiot who helps monopolies gain control over ordinary people, including the artists you supposedly support.

[–] admin@beehaw.org 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Please, remember our only rule here at Beehaw -> Be(e) nice. Name-calling is NOT nice.

[–] tesseract@beehaw.org 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Please check again who started it. This is TERRIBLE moderation. I'm out.

[–] pkulak@beehaw.org 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you don't like "the pimp middleman in between", I can only assume you exclusively consume your entertainment on subway platforms and pay with dollar bills, which is great, and good for you, but I like to support creators and live a comfortable life. Some of my money goes to Bandcamp, Patreon and Google. You do you.

"Mole rat". haha, cute. I'm not worth your top-shelf stuff, trust me. Save it for your English teacher.

[–] tesseract@beehaw.org 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

can only assume you exclusively consume your entertainment on subway platforms

After Google killed all the competition with ad-free unpaid service for so long. Market manipulation with bait and switch.

but I like to support creators and live a comfortable life

Like I said - you're self righteous. You have no clue how much the creators and web as a whole lost due to the greed and treachery of this horrible company.

I’m not worth your top-shelf stuff, trust me. Save it for your English teacher.

You are not worth anything. So keep patting yourself on the back.

[–] pkulak@beehaw.org 1 points 11 months ago

Gotcha. Not gonna keep chasing your goalposts, so have a good one!

[–] gk99@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Family plan split three ways comes out to about $7 a person per month, if I'm remembering right.