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[–] fartsparkles@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 months ago (3 children)

In Europe, it’s very normal to use multiple chat apps (WhatsApp, Signal, Telegram, Threema, etc).

iMessage isn’t even that good a chat app! It’s really hard to understand this clearly social issue affecting North America from a non-NA perspective.

[–] ayaya@lemdro.id 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Those kinds of apps took off in other places because SMS was expensive, but in the US there has been cheap and/or unlimited SMS for a couple of decades now. So people had no reason to use anything else. That means when iMessage came along and transparently covered up SMS it became the standard.

It is especially bad for teenagers where the iPhone has almost 90% market share. If you are a teen using Android with 9 friends, chances are literally all of them are on iMessage. Good luck trying to convince all 9 of them to install another app just for you. Apple's ~~indoctrination~~ marketing is so powerful that kids are actually bullied for not having an iPhone.

[–] QuinceDaPence@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

@fartsparkles

Also your 9 friends might just exclude you from group texts, and therefor activities, because they don't want to see the green bubbles. I shit you not.

[–] pgetsos@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They didn't take off just because SMS was expensive, but because they offer a much better experience with many more features

[–] ayaya@lemdro.id 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Sure, but pricing was the main driver. There doesn't seem to be readily available historical pricing data but even as late as 2018 the price of SMS in Europe seemed to be €0.07-0.11 per message. Which means it was even more expensive back in the early 2010s when WhatsApp and others were beginning to take off. For the US the price per message is and has been $0. I think the extra features were ultimately just a bonus when compared to being able to send messages for free. The fact the US still hasn't switched is proof enough that it being a better experience is not enough to compel people to change off of the default. Money is a huge motivator.

[–] pgetsos@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

Since at least 15 years ago, a ton of SMS were included in the contract or add-on packages for your phone, and data were much more expensive comparatively. In my country specifically, unlimited data has only been a thing for 1-2 years, and we have cheap data for less than 5-7 years. But we always had something like 1.500 SMS included in even the cheapest contracts for 10+ years

[–] angelsomething@lemmy.one 2 points 11 months ago

It’s specifically for the US market I reckon.

[–] Cralder@feddit.nu 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I'm European. My whole family (except me) uses iMessage and all my friends use iMessage or Facebook messenger. Its a problem here too.