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    [–] Montagge@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

    I haven't had any issues with the few snaps I use so far

    [–] RmDebArc_5@lemmy.ml 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    The issues are more being worse than flatpak in most ways: Proprietary, bigger, slower, no support for external repos

    [–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 23 points 1 year ago

    You had me at proprietary. But seriously, I use FOSS. I'll tolerate proprietary software if I have absolutely no other choice. There's absolutely no reason for me to put up with this bullshit. While it's a long way from the kind of shitfuckery Microsoft is so fond of, it's still completely unnecessary.

    [–] Montagge@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Proprietary doesn't bother me at least not how snap is currently implemented
    I don't recall noticing a size difference between snaps and flatpaks
    I've found snaps as fast as flatpaks, but I know snaps has issues before I started using them

    [–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

    Honestly, if you're satisfied, there's not really a compelling reason to switch. Keep using snaps if that's what works for you. But I would like to remark that we should preferably support open solutions to proprietary ones. That's not saying that we should never use proprietary software, but just something to keep in mind.

    [–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    I haven't had any issues with the few snaps I use so far

    My grandpa used to say something like the idea that he never had problems with the 'few' times he drove home drunk so far. Then he ran someone over.

    It's better to understand something is an avoidable risk BEFORE you're shown graphically.

    [–] Montagge@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    Yes, snaps are just like manslaughter

    [–] bear@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    Me reacting to analogies with "Did you know these two things are not completely identical?", completely unburdened by the knowledge that I'm supposed to explain how the differences invalidate the comparison.

    [–] Montagge@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Driving drunk is factually stupid
    Snaps are not
    It's a bad analogy

    [–] bear@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I'd argue it's pretty stupid to use FOSS but then depend on a proprietary server that only one for-profit company is allowed to run to deliver all that software, trusting them to just never do wrong or leave you high and dry. I'd also argue it fits the analogy perfectly, because the analogy was about saying "I haven't had a problem yet" in response to being shown the potential problems of the action.

    [–] Montagge@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    But the problem with snaps is an opinion. If Canonical goes bonkers I'll just go use something else. Until then I don't have any issues with them using proprietary software within their own ecosystem.

    [–] bear@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    It's not an opinion that proprietary for-profit software will betray you, it is an inevitability. It has happened every single time. If it was FOSS, we could salvage it. It's proprietary, so we can't. When it fails it must simply be abandoned. I just hope you learn the right lesson when this happens.

    [–] Montagge@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
    [–] bear@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    WinRAR will either die, or be sold and squeezed by its new owners. Nobody lives forever and no asset goes unflipped in this market. You can say you won't update, but that just leaves you vulnerable.

    [–] Montagge@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Lasted longer than a lot of foss projects lol

    [–] bear@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago

    If I were to list every FOSS project that has lasted longer, I'd have to spend all day writing the post. winRAR is unique in that it's one of the only pieces of long-lasting proprietary software that didn't die or turn to crap. Such things are not unique or even rare in FOSS.

    [–] zzx@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
    [–] bort@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
    [–] Abnorc@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

    Snaps killed his family.

    [–] zzx@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

    Me hate snap. Snap no good. Me no like snap. >:((((

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

    I mean, aren't they?

    [–] AphoticDev@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

    Comparing Snaps to manslaughter is a new one to me, but why couldn't you have gone for the Godwin and compared it to Hitler?

    [–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

    I ran ubuntu for a year and most my packages were snaps. It slowed my machine and made it lag so much. I now use arch btw

    [–] XEAL@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

    DBeaver it's not on the repos, but it is on snap

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯