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Louis Rossman/FUTO's YouTube app, GrayJay, now supports Sponsorblock... and shames you if you use it (lemmy.ca)

submitted 10 months ago by bionicjoey@lemmy.ca to c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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Seriously this was very surprising. I've been experimenting with GrayJay since it was announced and I largely think it's a pretty sweet app. I know there are concerns over how it isn't "true open source" but it's a hell of a lot more open than ReVanced. Plus, I like the general design and philosophy of the app.

I updated the YouTube backend recently and to my surprise and delight they had added support for SponsorBlock. However, when I went to enable it, it warned me "turning this on harms creators" and made me click a box before I could continue.

Bruh, you're literally an ad-blocking YouTube frontend. What kind of mental gymnastics does it take to be facilitating ad-blocking and then at the same time shame the end-user for using an extension which simply automates seeking ahead in videos. Are you seriously gonna tell me that even without Sponsorblock, if I skip ahead past the sponsored ad read in a video, that I'm "harming the creator"?

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[–] unknowing8343@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

How sure are you that your view through NewPipe is getting counted on YouTube statistics so that the channel is getting a proper measure of reach?

Because I am not so sure the view is being counted, and much less the (not)viewing of the sponsorblock segment.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 9 months ago

Views don't get counted on Newpipe and if they do somehow it's not accurate, as in it won't count watch-time or parts of the video watched, the way it parses the video these analytics don't get sent.

[–] neeeeDanke@feddit.de -3 points 9 months ago

I know my klick on the link is counted if I am interested in the product they are selling.

[–] cucumber_sandwich@lemmy.world -5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's still loading the page internally to extract the video link. I don't think newpipe after that looks different than say a smart tv,. So it's up to YouTube to do the counting.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 months ago

It looks like any other web browser, the problem is that without the Analytics being sent back it looks like a paused video buffering all the way through then the user leaves without watching the video. The analytics include how much and which parts of the video they watched, but videos can be loaded without watching them (that's what buffering does).