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[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz -1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

A lot of younger (louder) leftists are not liberal so they enforce uniform thought in their communities and mock liberals.

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Leftism is intersectional. So having communities that agree with one another but disagree with others is often the state of things. One community can get more accomplished if they agree internally. Liberals are not leftists.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Majority of people who vote left wing are liberals and most leftwing policy in the west is based in liberal values. It seems to be only a small set of people on the left that are not liberal.

There's nothing left wing about liberalism.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Being left of center is not being a "leftist."

Leftists are commies. That's why this guy is arguing that liberalism is right-wing. Anything that isn't communism is right-wing to him.

The real reason there are no leftists in US politics is that outside of a few small internet circles, there are vanishingly few leftists in America.

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Wait I didnt say right wing 😡

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe I need to read more on where the term leftisn comes from. I was under the impression it referred to any left wing voter.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Leftism" is a philosophy, namely that collectivist solutions are the correct answer to all societal problems. It is the purview of a "leftist" or someone who adheres to communist (or otherwise generally some type of Marxist or post-Marxist) thought.

I definitely understand the confusion if you didn't know that.

[–] WheeGeetheCat@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Young people of all generations do not have full brains developed yet, they are basic and self righteous until 27ish

[–] ArthurParkerhouse@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is confusing. Liberalism isn't leftwing, it's right-of-center at best. Most often it's right-wing economic policies with socially left-wing ineffectual lip service. Especially with how far right the Democrats have trended since the 80s and their adoption of a corporate focused form of third-wayism. There are only a handful of representatives who could even be considered slightly left-of-center progressives.

[–] TheMightyHUG@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Liberalism could mean a wide variety of political positions, from left to right.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Tangent, but there's a lesson with the third way that's often forgotten.

It worked.

Conservatism was way too popular. The country was just not at a point to go further left, as unfortunate as it was. Reagan ushered in an era of conservative dominance that we're only just now emerging from.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Especially with how far right the Democrats have trended since the 80s and their adoption of a corporate focused form of third-wayism

You might wanna give "third way' a Google, because you do not know what it means.

There are very few actual leftists at any point in US politics because leftists don't exist as a substantive bloc of US voters. Bemoaning that people who aren't leftists don't do leftist things doesn't really make a lot of sense