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[–] orrk@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

because realistically the truth almost always lies in the middle of the extremes.

so you think earth is a semi-sphere?

[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Clever. No, that's a matter of hard science. Not much room for interpretation there. But anything that's a matter of subjective opinion, yeah, it's almost always somewhere towards the center of the extremes.

[–] orrk@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

so:

the question of should it be legal to sell meth to children, the answer is yes under some conditions?

the answer to "the Jewish question" is, 3million?

how about enfranchisement? half the population? what half?

how about slavery? that was literally solved somewhere towards the center of the two extremes, and it caused a civil war.

civil rights? well, Jim-crow was a nice centrist position.

etc...

Centrism is rarely the correct answer

[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Centrism doesn't mean you're taking a median view of the population. It means you're not blindly following a left or right approach, and even more so as it approaches extreme ends of the spectrum. It means you're listening to all relevant data to the issue at hand, and forming it into one coherent opinion, usually somewhere right of extreme left, and left of extreme right.

There are ALWAYS pros and cons to everything, even 'obvious' things like abolishing slavery. To pretend otherwise is disingenuous and damages your own point for the sake of being a bit more emotionally comfortable. I prefer to eschew labels, left, right, center, alt, or otherwise because it allows me to more easily assimilate information that I might otherwise disregard because "eww it's RIGHT leaning".

To be clear, I fall pretty far left on most topics, but not because I'm a lefty. I fall there because it makes the most sense after hearing all of the information.

[–] orrk@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

so you agree that it is just support whatever is the most self-serving, understandable that centrists tend to fall in for heavily conservative far right shit, because if your stance isn't based on any moral system it's possible to rob men of rights and freedom.

[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

I'm not entirely sure what you're getting at. I think any belief system is based on some kind of moral system, but moral systems themselves aren't based on much that's tangible. You can use any justification you want to rob people of rights, and all systems of politics and morality must do this inherently.

The point I'm making is, a lot of people get attached to being "left" or "right", and being entrenched in one or the other (or centrism, honestly) only serves to allow yourself to ignore things you don't want to hear from the others, and turn the others into somehow less-than.

A perfect example of the less-than I'm talking about, you use a lot of language that implies right and center people are somehow morally less than left people. This isn't true, they have a different perspective and different set of priorities that lead them to different outcomes. Same thing if I was talking to a right leaning person about a lefty. The truth, or at least the thing that will benefit the MOST people is somewhere between those two. They're both looking at it, from different directions, so it looks different.

[–] PepeLivesMatter 1 points 1 year ago

Centrism is rarely the correct answer

You realize the opposite of centrism is extremism, right?