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[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Why does the left have an arbitrary attachment in your opinion? Why is it wrong just because it's "extreme"? I don't find that a very appealing argument. And why cannot an "extreme" position be aligned with reality?

What if the status quo is an "extreme" or absurd position? What if wealth inequality and private ownership, where people earn power just from owning things, is extreme?

Remember, democracy used to be a radical and extreme position. People thought that giving a vote to everyone was completely absurd. Do you think that's too extreme? What about letting women vote? What about abolishing slavery? What about saying that black people are not worse than white people? What about saying monarchism should have been abolished? What about abolishing feudalism and serfdom? What about labor laws and mandating that workers cannot be forced to work more than 8 hours a day?

All of these position were extreme once upon a time.

[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn't say that all views on one side or the other were extreme. Or that disengage from the status quo is extreme. I simply said that attaching yourself to a specific ideology (left, right, center, etc) and being unable to take in information from the other sides, tends to lead one towards extremism.

For the record, most of my personal views are haaaaaard left. I just HATE the rhetoric of "anyone entertaining a more-right idea than mine is at worst insane, and at best unable to pick a side."

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As I said in another comment, everyone has an ideology, you may just not be aware of it.

[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

And as I said in another comment, in reply to you saying the same thing, you're right, I have ideologies, but I don't hold them as absolute truths.