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What search engine is currently showing the most useful results? What other tricks do we have aside of adding "reddit" or whatever internet community to the results?

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[–] freeman@lemmy.pub 111 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (48 children)

For my job and work. I use Kagi. Its not free, but the search returns are very good, you can filter domains out from your returns, it supports custom "bangs" ala duck duck go and theres no tracking of queries. There are also specific filters for things like programming, or recipes for cooking etc. Theres also no ads, you are paying and are the customer. They are trying to establish a sustainable model to run on that allows for privacy.

I find it quite refreshing. It isnt free and I generally hate subscription stuff, but this is easily one I dont mind as it pays dividends often when searching for work.

https://kagi.com/

[–] dan@lemm.ee 94 points 1 year ago (32 children)

Wow. I don't mind paying for stuff if it's good. But seriously $5/month seems pretty expensive, and you only get 300 searches. $25 for unlimited searches, which seems like an insane amount of money.

[–] freeman@lemmy.pub 28 points 1 year ago (18 children)

The problem here is so many people are used to tech running at a loss on the books and/subsiding operating costs by selling customer data and analytics.

The reality is running tech companies is hard and expensive. The money here goes straight back into development. It’s just out of beta since march, and they have increased their quotas since I have been a customer.

But people are spoiled by free where you aren’t a customer. You are the product. If you are cool with that it’s fine. This isn’t the product for you.

For me, I like the idea and the searches are better than DDG/bing and startpage/google. So it’s worth the cost personally. I would rather pay that than say…Amazon prime where I’m both the customer and the product.

https://blog.kagi.com/kagi-orion-public-beta

[–] Misconduct@reddthat.com 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I will personally always be against any paywalls on information but to each their own I guess.

[–] jocanib@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It's not a paywall on information. What you're paying for is a better search engine and better privacy. People have to be paid to provide you with that and, if you don't want to pay them with cash, you can go and pay another search engine with your time and data.

[–] wings@lemmy.perthchat.org 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So in other words, it's a paywall on information.

[–] freeman@lemmy.pub 3 points 1 year ago

Well no. The information is still there. It’s an index of that information

[–] Misconduct@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago

Ah, the old paywall with extra steps. So let's take that further... In the future google has devolved even more than it has now. So it's just basically a misinformational mess riddled with ads. I guess to have access to reliable and non-predatory links/info you gotta now have the money for it. How much money will of course increase as any company gets established of course further pushing lower income people out.

And don't even pretend this is far stretched. People struggling to get by get boned by shit like this all the time.

It's too abusable. I don't like it at all. I also don't like the idea of the government having full control of the internet/information either. I don't know what the solution is but locking information behind money, even if it's in a roundabout way, is not a good solution.

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