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[-] BarterClub@sh.itjust.works 60 points 11 months ago
[-] AnonTwo@kbin.social 46 points 11 months ago

Isn't the main issue whether or not there's an ease to replace? There's like 20 steps and a bunch of easily breakable cables involved with replacing it currently.

I mean I think you can replace the Switch's battery too by that standard.

Same site even says it's only 1 extra step in total, though instead of the cables being in the way, it sounds like the shields a bit more difficult.

But like either of these replacements would require a technical user to do it.

[-] keeb420@kbin.social 6 points 11 months ago

it should be done by 2027 at the latest it sounds like.

[-] lackthought@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 11 months ago

‘ease to replace’ to whom?

seems like an impossible to define standard, but I’d be interested to hear what the requirements are

if they supply the necessary tools and steps/videos, is that enough?

[-] AnonTwo@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago

Given SLaSZT already gave an answer in

https://kbin.social/m/games@sh.itjust.works/t/202790/Gaming-handhelds-like-the-Switch-and-Steam-Deck-will-need#entry-comment-836808

Which isn't far from this post

I don't think you asked this in good faith.

A battery that can be popped out and replaced, with no tools and no risk of damaging any of the other hardware on the board.

Just supplying the tools and steps is absolutely not enough. We're talking about replacing a part on a $300+ machine. Most people would be scared to do that purely on the merits they couldn't afford to replace if something went wrong.

[-] BarterClub@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 months ago

True. But this is 10 years old now. Are we going to reduce water resistance over ease of use to repair? Might be. But where so we draw the line?

It's going to be interesting to see the requirements. I'm hoping for somewhere between ease and keeping water resistance up.

[-] PM_ME_UR_PCAPS@lemmy.ml 26 points 11 months ago

Says 2-4 hours and “difficult” on the battery replacement page

[-] sorenant@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

And requires heating + prying.

If this is considered replaceable, I wonder what an non-replaceable battery would be. Soldered to the main board and trying to unsolder it causes a failsafe to short the CPU?

[-] keeb420@kbin.social 6 points 11 months ago

its an easy fix. replace the adhesive with stretch release battery adhesive.

[-] Sterben@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Non replaceable batteries are on iPhones, since they are paired with the motherboard, and if you replace it, iOS will keep warning you every day about a non genuine battery presents in your device.

[-] SLaSZT@kbin.social 19 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Nah. The battery on my old Samsung Galaxy S4 literally just pops out with minor force applied as soon as the cover is off, leaving the phone ready for a new one to be slotted in. That is what "user replaceable" means.

Don't get me wrong, I am familiar with electronics, have a diploma in electrical engineering, have soldered hundreds/thousands of components, etc. and I could do this easily (though I have concerns about heating the battery). But most people cannot currently replace the battery without significant headaches.

[-] woelkchen@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

Steam deck done.

Not really. Look up the Linus Tech Tips teardown. The battery is glued in super hard. Linus said he spoke to Valve about that and according to him Valve said they're looking into making it easier to replace at a later date. Since then I've not seen any reports about a change.

[-] Richie030@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

Heat gun on the battery, that sounds fun

[-] BarterClub@sh.itjust.works 0 points 11 months ago

Your right. It's not the best but till allows you to replace it. Unlike iPhone and Android since they are much harder to replace.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago

Some Android phones are decent, like the Fairphone. But most are a giant pain.

[-] kelvinjps@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

my mom has one that you can just replace the batery. it's a ZTE

[-] juliebean@lemm.ee 11 points 11 months ago

i think 'user replaceable' should involve no tools, and a minimum of time. if step one involves removing eight tiny screws, and it only gets more cumbersome from there, i don't think it counts.

[-] faeranne@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 11 months ago

The currebt rule says "No propritary tools" which seems reasonable when you add in that glueing in is considered "non-replacable" too. The GBA SP needed a single screw to hold in it's battery and nothing else. Plus with proper threading, screws last much longer than plastic clips.

[-] 73ms@sopuli.xyz 3 points 11 months ago

There's something to be said for this as well certainly but I do think the deck is still much better overall than will be required since they actually offer spare parts for sale for pretty much everything and repair guides too.

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 2 points 11 months ago

The steam deck battery is glued on? Fucking seriously? Jesus

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