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[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Lots of places used to belong to Spain. That doesn’t mean Argentina gets them all. Their logic is flawed and specious.

The US used to belong to England too, doesn't mean that England can ask for it back. I mean, technically, the US was literally stolen by former British citizens from England by force, legally. At least Canada did their country birth and land title/ownership thing the legal way (AFAIK). That's one hell of a rabbit hole you could go down.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No that's another completely different rabbit hole. That's not the same argument or logic at all. Spain isn't asking for Argentina back. That's the only comparable situation to what you're suggesting.

The comparable logic to what you're saying would be for America to say that because they won their independence from the British they should now also own Bermuda. That's the logic you're using in Argentina claiming the Falklands. Argentina has no claim to the Falklands at all. Neither based on past ownership nor based on citizenship. It's simply another unrelated territory. Argentina might as well claim they should get Chile by the same logic.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That’s not the same argument or logic at all. Spain isn’t asking for Argentina back.

That analogy wasn't about the asking, but about the claim of title and ownership. The asking in and of itself is not the relevant part of the point being made.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You're the one who brought up asking for stuff not me.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago

As an avenue of making the point of ownership, and not the asking inandof itself.

I'm going to "bow out" of further replies. I've been at this for coming up on 24 hours now, and am tired of everyone wanting their "pound of flesh", and have said pretty much everything I can say. No disrespect meant to you, just thing the conversation has reached a termination point. Take care.