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You're talking about reducing military spending in general, not about F35 specifically? I actually agree then. But the F35 isn't a bad bang for the buck for increasing combat power. Are we taking about the F35 or about military spending?
what are you talking about?
BOTH there is no seperating the two!???? the f35 is an example out of many examples of govt over spending. and again the f35 is AWFUL for bang to the buck? what war do we need it for? what are we missing? https://www.defensenews.com/smr/hidden-troubles-f35 btw it's awful it's no secret that it is mid engineered
you're not gonna gas light me into saying that those are two separate discussions when they aren't.
there's no need to like, defend the f35 project. lmao the actual defense industry is aware of its issues.
just trying to figure out where this 'bang for our Buck' is coming from when there no shot were going to sell enough to offset the cost as well as them being buggy and hard to maintain. .you do know the us already has the strongest military BY FAR. It's pointless.
I think you fundamental misunderstand what military spending like the f35 is for. It's purpose is to keep a war (like China invading Tiwan) from happening because the other side knows that it won't do well. A successful system isn't necessarily one that does well in combat, but one that keeps the fight from happening in the first place. Since war is so astronomically expensive, even extremely expensive systems are worth it to prevent war.
Also, compare to other modern fighters. F22 is something like 5x the price, it's 20M cheaper than the f15ex, and is only about 15M more expensive than the super hornet. It offers a high stealth capability at a significantly lower price point and higher quality than the f22.
If you buy into the amount of combat power needed to deter a war (I think it should be much lower than current US estimates, but I guess Russia still managed to miscalculate) then they're a good investment. Any which way, they're a good modern addition to a very high tech fighting force.
Here's more info on the f16 vs f35 tests you might be referencing. https://youtu.be/R_aID6_naNU
Here's a good overview of the f35 and what capabilities it brings to the table. https://youtu.be/7SNALUoybt0
Both by Alex Hollings, award winning aviation journalist.
you're so dellusional mate if you think it's the f35 program keeping china from invading and not our deep economic ties with them. f22 is more but it didn't cost trillions to make.
not a good point. and no that is not the purpose of military spending that's the propaganda lockee heed Martin lobbiest shrill to our idiotic Congress people.
sheesh we are doomed because people like your need to bend over backwards to justify outrageous military spending. and no I'm not thinking of the f16 tests, I'm thinking of the literal pilots that call the f35 a sack of shit
also a higher stealth capability... for what mate for what we already have uavs for recon. military satellites. tapped into the grid of the entire world through back doors in like phones and shir.
we don't need a fucking jet and nothing you say will ever change that. you're literally justifting bullshit.
us not putting money into dumb shit like this won't change the fact that we are the world's largest nuclear power. thats the real thing keeping war at bay it's MAD not some jet bro when we have literally arsenal a on arsenals already of just aircraft CARRIERS
like what are you on about