this post was submitted on 25 Nov 2023
666 points (97.7% liked)

Games

39264 readers
1232 users here now

Welcome to the largest gaming community on Lemmy! Discussion for all kinds of games. Video games, tabletop games, card games etc.

Rules

1. Submissions have to be related to games

Video games, tabletop, or otherwise. Posts not related to games will be deleted.

This community is focused on games, of all kinds. Any news item or discussion should be related to gaming in some way.

2. No bigotry or harassment, be civil

No bigotry, hardline stance. Try not to get too heated when entering into a discussion or debate.

We are here to talk and discuss about one of our passions, not fight or be exposed to hate. Posts or responses that are hateful will be deleted to keep the atmosphere good. If repeatedly violated, not only will the comment be deleted but a ban will be handed out as well. We judge each case individually.

3. No excessive self-promotion

Try to keep it to 10% self-promotion / 90% other stuff in your post history.

This is to prevent people from posting for the sole purpose of promoting their own website or social media account.

4. Stay on-topic; no memes, funny videos, giveaways, reposts, or low-effort posts

This community is mostly for discussion and news. Remember to search for the thing you're submitting before posting to see if it's already been posted.

We want to keep the quality of posts high. Therefore, memes, funny videos, low-effort posts and reposts are not allowed. We prohibit giveaways because we cannot be sure that the person holding the giveaway will actually do what they promise.

5. Mark Spoilers and NSFW

Make sure to mark your stuff or it may be removed.

No one wants to be spoiled. Therefore, always mark spoilers. Similarly mark NSFW, in case anyone is browsing in a public space or at work.

6. No linking to piracy

Don't share it here, there are other places to find it. Discussion of piracy is fine.

We don't want us moderators or the admins of lemmy.world to get in trouble for linking to piracy. Therefore, any link to piracy will be removed. Discussion of it is of course allowed.

Authorized Regular Threads

Related communities

PM a mod to add your own

Video games

Generic

Help and suggestions

By platform

By type

By games

Language specific

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
Dremor@lemmy.world
JonsJava@lemmy.world
fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Dremor@jlai.lu
modfxomt@lemmy.world
666
Court rules Gabe Newell must appear in person to testify in Steam anti-trust lawsuit (www.pcgamer.com)
submitted 2 years ago by Goronmon@lemmy.world to c/games@lemmy.world
268 comments fedilink hide all child comments
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] echo64@lemmy.world -5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Valve hasn't done anything shady, but monopolies are still bad and unhealthy. Both things are true. And there are no other options for less of a cut if you want to actually make sales, pc gamers won't purchase from other platforms.

[–] Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Monopolies are bad, but is it a monopoly if they naturally gained market share because their product was first and better?

Honestly I'd be fine with them removing the "PMFN" clause, but I'd rather it be a law that it can't be enforced because you know Valve isn't the only one to include it. But even if they did get rid of it, I don't think they'd see a major shift away from their platform.

[–] echo64@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yes, it's unhealthy for the undustry even if you enjoy it today. Gabe newel is old. He's going to retire soon and likely sell the company. You won't like what happens after that, and the fact that so much of the industry is provided via their product means they have a lot of agency to tighten the screws.

"OH but then we'll just use something else". That's not how the monopoly works, you might, most won't. Most of what you want won't be on the something else.

[–] PapstJL4U@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Yes. Yes it is. It doesnot matter how a monopoly was created. It's the definition of a current market state, not behaviour.

In many countries it although does not have be a true monopoly (aka a single object), but a undisputed, sizeable market portion.

[–] PsychedSy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago

They've had some shady situations, but they tend to walk them back when we lose our shit.