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[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 157 points 7 months ago

Because the 'numbers' that neoliberals have decided are the indicators of a "good" economy mean almost nothing to, in all likely hood, 95% of Americans.

Measuring the right thing leads to inconvenient conclusions (age till retirement, income at retirement, income independence, buying power, home ownership, business ownership, union membership, etc.)

[-] bruce_willass@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

I love that they chose a term to further muddy the waters between conservatives and liberals.

I hear neoliberal and I think, “huh, is the a new liberal?” Nope. It’s the exact fucking opposite.

[-] mriormro@lemmy.world 17 points 7 months ago

That term isn't new nor is it meant to muddy any waters. Liberals are not leftists.

[-] bruce_willass@lemmy.world -4 points 7 months ago

That’s exactly what leftists are. The left is liberal. The right is conservative.

[-] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Outside the US, "liberal" often means "libertarian", not leftist. The Liberals in the UK and in Australia are very pro-business. The leftist parties in both countries, and elsewhere, call themselves "Labor" not "Liberal".

In the US, "neo-liberals" often refers to people who wanted to install pro-business regimes in other countries, like Iraq...

[-] mriormro@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

Whenever you see reference to neoliberalism or someone mentions 'leftists' relative to 'liberals' it is in context with classical liberalism.

The wiki page is a pretty good jumping off point to understand some of the distinctions and discourse.

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_liberalism

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

No, the left is socialist, the center is liberal, the right is conservative

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