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[–] Sunforged@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The funding of extremists happened in the early 1980s, the articles you linked are largely discussing the fallout after the fact. The PLO and Fatah of the 80s were much different organizations from what existed in the late '00 early '10s.

[–] QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I understand that. I said they got co-opted, not that they were always bad. The implication of the comment you were agreeing with is the Hamas is trash and we should support the Palestinian Authority is the most legitimate force for Palestine.

[–] Sunforged@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The implication of the comment you were agreeing with is the Hamas is trash and we should support the Palestinian Authority is the most legitimate force for Palestine.

That's a huge jump from what they said in the comment I replied too.

[–] QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 11 months ago

Maybe it’s a bit of a stretch, but it still is definitely condemning Hamas. Our support is always critical, but Hamas definitely deserves our support.

[–] Flamingoaks@lemmygrad.ml -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

that is not what i said and that is not what i meant, i think Hamas is the only option for Palestinian liberation but i dont think we should be upholding them as any kind of a gold standard which seems to be a thing thats happening around here lately, my point was that we should have a more measured take on Hamas as an organization, maybe i didnt use the best words (tho i still think i did).

[–] DeDollarization@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Flamingoaks@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

thanks, it was a good read, maybe i was wrong about Hamas. Tho i found the argument that a mosque can be just as revolutionary as a church humorous because a church cant be revolutionary.

[–] DeDollarization@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

because a church cant be revolutionary.

The Sandanistas and millions of Nicaraguans would disagree. Part of Nicaraguan revolutionary legacy is Liberation Theology.

[–] DeDollarization@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Stupid brown people in the global south have no autonomy and can't possibly be revolutionary outside of what Karl Marx imagined. I am very smart and definitely not a patronizing racist.

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[–] Sunforged@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 months ago

Changing hearts and minds, you.