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[–] Computerchairgeneral@kbin.social 33 points 9 months ago (6 children)

On the one hand I'm always excited for more Witcher. On the other hand Cyberpunk 2077. More seriously, I hope they make a great game and it that lives up to the expectations people are going to have for a new Witcher game, but I'm keeping my expectations in check until I see the finished product.

[–] TheDubz87@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I'm hoping the initial backlash from cyberpunk actually registered with them. Other than that I'm also worried about what kind of story and characters they'll use considering the way the last dlc for witcher 3 ended. Not sure I'll be into Ciri based gameplay. That was my least favorite part of Witcher 3, and I don't really want them to retcon the end of blood and wine either to continue with Geralt.

[–] Tripp1976@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They need to go back in time to when all the witcher schools were still going and you can choose which school you're a part of at the beginning, make your own witcher instead of one playable character.

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

That sounds really bad on paper, tbh. The cool parts about the player character all stem from how it's a defined person with an existing personality and place in the world. If it becomes Skyrim: Witcher Edition, we'd probably also inherit the shallow~inexistent storytelling of that.

[–] Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What if it becomes Baldurs Gate 3: Witcher Edition? BG3 also has a player created character without an existing personality and the storytelling is certainly not shallow in that game.

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yeah but one of the biggest pitfalls is seeing another company catch lightning in a bottle, then thinking that this can be freely recreated. Just that BG3 could do a user-created character with a good story does not at all imply that any other company can do it. Nevermind will. Or even that Larian can do it again.

[–] Tripp1976@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

While I do kinda agree with you, I think CDPR is a lot better at writing interesting quests and characters than Bethesda. Still not as good as larien but I don't think it would be todd Howard bad.

[–] LeafOnTheWind@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

I could see them doing interesting things with Ciri's magic, but there is a good chance they use a different witcher. Or maybe significantly earlier than the existing witcher games? Young Geralt or maybe Vesimir?

[–] Yearly1845@reddthat.com 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Could easily pick up with Lambert and Keira

[–] popekingjoe@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

"Lambert, Lambert, what a prick."

[–] Yearly1845@reddthat.com 2 points 9 months ago
[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Not sure I’ll be into Ciri based gameplay.

I'd love that. Sure they'd have to really re-do her combat style since it was only a brief intermission before, but it feels natural to progress to her eventually. And honestly, it's high time Geralt takes a bow after 3 games as big as they are, and as awesome as those were. Exit before they eventually ruin him. 😅

[–] TheDubz87@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

I agree. After the ending, I was happy my boy could get some rest too lol

[–] Carighan@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Cyberpunk's patching has showed me that ~1-1,5 years after release is a really good time to jump in.

By which time, between patches and mods, the worst stuff is dealt with and the experience can be really nice, if a bit tepid due to bad design decisions that mods cannot fix. Still, enjoyable game after patches and at a discount.

[–] h_a_r_u_k_i@programming.dev 2 points 9 months ago

I learned the lesson: keep the hope low (so I don't get disappointed), and never preorder.

[–] sailingbythelee@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Witcher 3 is probably my favourite game of all time, largely because of the semi-parental storyline with Geralt, Yennefer, and Ciri. That said, I think the weakness with the Witcher 1-3 series as a whole is that the plot is too complex. Since most modern AAA RPGs have many, many side quests, I think the main plot of a long RPG should be relatively simple or else risk diluting its dramatic effect.

I feel like CD Projekt Red did a better job with that aspect of story-telling in Cyberpunk, even if the overall emotional arc is less intense than that of Witcher 3. There are lots of cool things to do and interesting side quests in Cyberpunk, but the main arc is pretty simple. You can go off on hours of side quests and still come back to the main plot without forgetting what's going on.

[–] And009@reddthat.com 2 points 9 months ago

Witcher already has the lore done well. They just need to get the experience right.

[–] TIMMAY@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I believe I heard that some developers in CDPR were going on strike? Has anyone else heard about something like that?