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A tweet from the George Takei Twitter account which states:

"A Democrat was in the White House when my family was sent to the internment camps in 1941. It was an egregious violation of our human and civil rights.

It would have been understandable if people like me said they’d never vote for a Democrat again, given what had been done to us.

But being a liberal, being a progressive, means being able to look past my own grievances and concerns and think of the greater good. It means working from within the Democratic party to make it better, even when it has betrayed its values.

I went on to campaign for Adlai Stevenson when I became an adult. I marched for civil rights and had the honor of meeting Dr. Martin Luther King. I fought for redress for my community and have spent my life ensuring that America understood that we could not betray our Constitution in such a way ever again.

Bill Clinton broke my heart when he signed DOMA into law. It was a slap in the face to the LGBTQ community. And I knew that we still had much work to do. But I voted for him again in 1996 despite my misgivings, because the alternative was far worse. And my obligation as a citizen was to help choose the best leader for it, not to check out by not voting out of anger or protest.

There is no leader who will make the decision you want her or him to make 100 percent of the time. Your vote is a tool of hope for a better world. Use it wisely, for it is precious. Use it for others, for they are in need of your support, too."

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The last paragraph I find particularly powerful and something more people really should take into account.

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[–] Ferrous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

When you figure out a means of political activity that doesn't involve refining the capitalist regime as it stands, let me know. Until then, I won't be voting for candidates who help slaughter innocent people around the world.

[–] Algaroth@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Apathy is acceptance. Apathy is death.

[–] knightly@pawb.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You say that like complicity isn't also both of those things.

[–] Algaroth@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You need to understand that violent people will kill a pacifist. Quite easily.

[–] knightly@pawb.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then maybe the Democrats should run candidates who treat Republicans as an existential threat rather than their friends across the aisle. Heck, they could start by refusing campaign donations from the rich assholes who fund both sides of the election.

[–] Algaroth@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some Democrats do. You find them in the primaries. It's how politicians like AOC got to where they are. But it starts with people like you paying attention in primaries.

[–] knightly@pawb.social 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I do, despite the fact that they rarely ever get past the primaries. The party establishment cares more about preserving the status quo for their financiers than faithfully representing their voting base. The threat to withhold my vote in the general election is the only leverage I have against the party, and I will apply it to the best of my ability.

[–] Algaroth@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Vote in the primaries, put in the work in the primaries. And if you don't get it, vote not Hitler.

[–] knightly@pawb.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I refuse to promise my vote, and especially not a year in advance. "Safe" voters can be safely ignored since you'll vote blue no matter who, it's undecided voters control the outcome of the election.

If you want the party to suck less, then you need to start demanding better and back it up with the threat of withdrawing your support.

Remind them that they're supposed to represent you, and what the consequences are if they fail to do so.

[–] Algaroth@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're halfway there. But not voting at all is giving a vote to the opposition. And they vote no matter who.

[–] knightly@pawb.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Democrats certainly see it that way, which is why I'm employing the threat to stay home on election day. I'm not rich enough to wield any other influence.

[–] Algaroth@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Not voting against a fascist is a vote for fascist. It sucks but that is your choice. If Trump wins you will most likely never vote again.

[–] knightly@pawb.social 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, that's the thing. If we had that option I would instantly vote against the fascist. But our choice is whether we want our fascism with a kindly face or an angry one, and that's not a decision worth dignifying by consideration.

If you want me to vote for Dems, tell them to do the bare minimum and form a Truth and Reconciliation Commission.

[–] conneru64@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago

So you won't use your vote to help less people die?

[–] FoolishBrainiac@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Ah, so you are never voting again.