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Bob Iger Says ‘The Marvels’ Failed Because of a Lack of “Supervision” (collider.com)
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[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Did it?

Yes, you had to have seen Captain Marvel, but a sequel can expect that. Plus I think the opening 2 minutes gives you a recap anyway.

Next we jump to Nick Fury, an established character both in the previous film and the universe at large. He is working with someone "new" (Monica) but really you just need to know, "friend of Nick Fury".

Then we get Kamala, but we don't need to know much about her yet. Just a random fan girl who is involved.

We learn they all have powers, great.

The film will tell us how each got their powers, but it isn't that important.

Spoilers for WandaVision. It isn't important to know that Monica got them from Wanda or what she went through.

Spoilers for Ms Marvel, we don't care (in this movie) that she is a mutant. We don't see her friend from the show. She has a magic band, that's in the movie, that's all we need.

[–] Microw@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The movie tells a story about Carol's relationship to both Monica and Kamala. It's already hard to understand the relationship between Monica and Carol if you have seen the first movie and Wandavision. Without that knowledge I would be completely lost.

Understanding Kamala probably works fine without having seen her show, but also is quite bland. It works way way better if you have all that background knowledge about her character and family dynamics.

[–] s38b35M5@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And isn't that par for the course? Marvel movies have sequels and prequels and a very linear relationship on purpose.

Not sure why the movie with three female leads is the one getting shade for having to watch previous content for it all to make the most sense. Oh, wait...

[–] Microw@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That is true, but people were more content with watching those prequels when it was only movies. This is the first movie where you actually "had" to watch TV shows. Doctor Strange 2 escaped that problem by ignoring the show.

Of course you are right IMO that this movie would have been criticized anyways and not performed well. IMO they also mis-marketed the movie (probably impacted by the strike). They should have targeted the teenage female audiences way more than they did, do more promotion in that direction.

[–] s38b35M5@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So it was a financial flop? I usually ignore those metrics and go by my own feelings. I liked it. Could have been better, but I wasn't groaning the entire time or wishing it was done differently. I enjoy watching powerful women being awesome, so I had fun. Their learning to work with the power glitch was cool.

[–] Microw@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

According to Nash, it made $189 million on a $274 million budget so far. If those numbers are true, that's a significant flop.

I liked the movie btw.

[–] s38b35M5@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

That does seem low, especially where BP:WF beat that on opening weekend, IIRC.

Too bad. I like this story line and want more, but I suppose I won't get it now...