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[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Let's part the waters.

These are considered for all purposes motor vehicles and can use as such any road, except for highways. These even have an incentive for adoption, being exempt of some taxes.

Riding these in a city and getting into an accident follows the same rules; a car hitting one is pretty much screwed, as these vehicles do not have the same defensive capabilities as a car. The average car drivers respects and gives room to these vehicles.

The only blatant flaw for better acommodating these vehicles is the lack of reserved parking spaces, which forces many drivers to occupy sidewalks just like what happens with conventional scooters, and most people understands and tolerates.

By comparison, these have quickly become the bane of safe travelling for all because whoever uses these tends to think is better or smarter than anyone else.

These were originally considered equivalent to a bicycle and as such could use those lanes as well as common roads, observing the same traffic regulations (keep to the right, no more than two bicycles side by side, wear helmet, etc). And bycicle accidents are not rampant.

Unlike those contraptions that are constantly seen invading sidewalks and other pedestrian reserved areas and endangering people and animals. There have been several sightings of these machines doing 110km/h in highways; those people are reckless and stupid. Rentals are often abandoned anywhere and everywhere. Users of these often swerve in front or between traffic, invade BUS lanes and endanger themselves and others.

Accomodate these any more? How about some basic civility?

[–] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you're sitting its a motorbike. If you're pedaling and it's under a certain wattage it's an ebikes. If you're standing and throttling it's an e-scooter. I'm not talking about electric mopeds/moyorcycles. E scooters are only acceptable when they're limited to ~25km/h IMO, but ebikes are still preferable. I'm not saying people should be going 100km/h on a scooter, you're misconstruing it. I'm arguing that the fact that those people are resorting to using 100km/h death machines signals a problem in infrastructure and alternate modes of transport.

[–] qyron@sopuli.xyz 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

These machines being tinkered with and heavily modified happens almost exclusevely in urban areas where good public transportation already exists.

Every article I've read usually boils down to thrills, a hollow sense of being against the system or just disrespect for the place because tourist.

Even giving all the wiggle room for bad reporting, it feels something is very wrong with this particular mode of transportation, in that setting.

I live in a rural area, with essentially no public transportation, and these alternatives have been growing in popularity with no issues. Even the older folks get intrigued and often strike up conversations with the people using it.