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[–] sub_@beehaw.org 79 points 9 months ago (31 children)

I remember when Joe Rogan was getting giant paycheck from Spotify promoting antivax stuff, and people talked about moving to Apple Music, but it feels like many just stuck with Spotify.

I came across a post on instagram that says that Al Yankovic's 80 million stream on playlist only netted him enough money to buy a sandwich.

Also, Spotify underpaying artists, making fake playlists with cover artists to undermine artists, are not new. It feels like the mainstream crowd just doesn't care, which pushes me further into depression.

[–] Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 27 points 9 months ago (21 children)

I personally don't care because if a company isn't paying you for your time/work, that's their problem to sort out, not mine. I will go where the music is. If artists start leaving Spotify and it becomes a wasteland of nothing but trash, then I'll find new places to get it from. Why should I worry about their income? I'm paying for a service, I get the service and use it. I have my own income issues to handle, I don't need theirs too.

[–] mkhoury@lemmy.ca 46 points 9 months ago (16 children)

What Spotify does affects the entire music market. Why should you worry about their income? Because Spotify's strategy makes it harder and harder for musicians to have the income to keep on making music. If you care about having music to listen to, you should care about this. Also, Spotify and music is just one example of the overall exploitation of workers. If you don't stand for artists when it's their livelihood at stake, why should anyone stand up for your rights when it's your livelihood at stake?

[–] CalamityBalls@kbin.social 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Buy concert tickets if you want to support musicians, streaming income doesn't really factor into it afaik.

[–] mkhoury@lemmy.ca 23 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's the point, though. Spotify is rigged specifically so that they don't have to pay small artists. Spotify splits the pot with the Big Three and everyone else can go fuck themselves. I would much rather my monthly payment go toward the artists I actually listen to. Instead, most of a monthly payment goes to the most played artists-- which Spotify rigs to be whoever nets them the most money (low royalty artists, high dividends for Spotify and the Big Three who are highly invested in it)

[–] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

I think Tidal scores the best among music streaming services in terms of compensating artists. I switched from Spotify to Tidal several months ago and have no regrets

[–] morry040@kbin.social 8 points 9 months ago

It's estimated that Tidal pays $0.013 per stream, Spotify pays $0.003 - $0.005, and Apple pays $0.01 per stream.
https://dittomusic.com/en/blog/how-much-does-tidal-pay-per-stream/

[–] cwagner@beehaw.org 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I doubt it pays much better, the issue might be partially the distribution, but mainly that they are too cheap.

[–] Kiloee@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

While it isn’t a lot more in general it is still about three times of Spotify. It also takes into consideration which artists you actually stream afaik, so that your money goes more towards those.

[–] ericjmorey@beehaw.org 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Look like Tidal pays 4x more than Spotify on average. For small artists, it's likely hundreds of times more.

[–] scytale@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Even concerts barely break even for artists after all expenses. Right now, merch and physical album sales are the best way (other than directly giving money) to support your favorite artists. I don’t buy physical albums because they just become clutter at home, so I make it a point to buy merch when I go to a concert.

[–] cwagner@beehaw.org 1 points 9 months ago

Buying digital albums works just as well. No need to go physical.

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