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They may have to unload them in the UK (where sympathy strikes have been illegal since the Thatcher era) and truck them all the way to Sweden.
The UK is not in the EU. That would cost more customs delays, formalities, and costs.
Musk is an idiot. There's a reason companies like McDonalds cooperate with unions in Europe. It's cheaper.
McDonald's actually learned the hard way to work with union agreements when they first opened in Denmark.
Here is an interesting read about it:
https://mattbruenig.com/2021/09/20/when-mcdonalds-came-to-denmark/
Fantastic read, thank you
Good luck trucking across the sea. And having to deal with the brexit bureaucracy
You know there is both a tunnel between UK and France and a bridge between Denmark and Sweden?
Doesnt make it an efficient option, but it is possible.
True. Still gotta deal with Brexit bureaucracy. They can't just transport things from UK into EU without a ton of permits, fees and paperwork. Then they have to truck through two countries striking against them. Every avenue Tesla tries to get around unions can be shut down with another sympathy strike. Gas station workers can refuse to sell them gas for instance. If they're electrical vehicles, well, there's already a strike in place. Unions can outlast Elon.
Don't the strikes need to target Tesla?
Like repair shops could prevent repairs because to get parts they need to interact with Tesla, which they will refuse, but if a Tesla needed gasoline, can a gas shop actually prevent a customer from filling their tank?
The strike isn't against the customer, so I'm not sure that'd be allowed?
The strikes would target trucks transporting Teslas. Not actual Teslas.
So you're saying gas stations refusing to fuel trucks transporting a Tesla? If those trucks are a 3rd party company would that be okay? Can they sympathy strike against a different entity?
100% agree if they are teala employees operating the trucks.
This whole thing and all the side implications are fascinating to watch unfold
More likely that third party company would be seen as scabs or join the strike. If seen as scabs they will get the same treatment as Tesla and individuals can even be banned from the Union.
Eventually I think Tesla wouldn't use someone that'd also join the strike, so probably a foreign non unionized trucker, but treating then as scabs make sense then and blocking them that way.
Thanks for all the insight and discussion!
I don't know if sympathy strikes are legal in France, but if they are I could see the French Train Drivers join and then the Tunnel wouldn't be an option either
I don't think the French will pass on an opportunity to strike, no matter the reason.
Or whether it's legal or not. There is a thin french mustache hair line between strike and riot.
And I love them for that.
We all love them for that. If there's one thing you about french people you have to admire it's their willingness to use collective bargaining and fuck shit up.