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[–] zifnab25@hexbear.net 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Old 2e game back in middle school. My DM introduced a weapon common to goblins called a "Herculean Club". It did d10 damage and could be used by a small creature, but it would break in two if you rolled less than a 3.

Our ranger loved them, because they were ideal for two-weapon fighting (big oopsey on the DM's part). But his rolls were shit, so he was always breaking them. At one point, he went through six different clubs in an encounter, and the DM demanded to see his character sheet. Dude had, like, 30 of these on there. But also an 18/70 strength score, so... shrug

[–] Doug@midwest.social 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Been a while since I saw a reference to exceptional strength

[–] zifnab25@hexbear.net 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Rivaling the rogue's boutique skill system for moments of "Why on earth did they shoehorn that in there?" game design.

[–] LoamImprovement@ttrpg.network 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Per Gygax himself:

"Adding a d% roll to an 18 Strength roll is hardly complicated. It was done because Strength was the only stat that needed to be increased in steps by the d% mechanic so as to improve fighters to hit and damage chances. So that was used because I favor interesting play over any imagined elegance, that being quite unlikely in an RPG in my view. RPGs are games, not art, and I don't give myself airs." "Can you imaging the increases of stats going into the 20s needed in order to get the same result as 18/00? The human norm bell curve of 3-18 down the tubes in a jiffy. Not elegant at all, and simply foolish ;-)"

Disclaimer, his views don't reflect my own.

[–] zifnab25@hexbear.net 0 points 10 months ago

I'm sorry, but that's just bullshit. The rule was implemented as a patch in to deal with the fact that Strength is the most efficient stat in 2e. Everyone wanted to max out their strength score and Gygax didn't want everyone coming to the table with near-identical stat blocks. So, for one value - 18 - in one stat - strength - he created a secondary rule that stratified characters that much further.

RPGs are games, not art, and I don't give myself airs.

This is also nth-levels of bullshit.