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California regulators cut incentives for rooftop solar even further (www.canarymedia.com)
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[–] lntl@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

"Upper middle class" Californians are the rich, foo

[–] blandfordforever@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

I've always been a little unclear on this. At around what yearly income or total net worth in 2023 would you say someone is "rich"?

[–] Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Lol they are not rich, they make more money but the higher cost of living eats that up quickly

[–] lntl@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

people who cannot afford the cost of living are not the rich

[–] blandfordforever@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I get the feeling that people who are actually rich have successfully tricked you into blaming the "not poor".

[–] lntl@lemmy.ml -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Whose blaming anyone? For what?

[–] blandfordforever@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I may be misinterpeting but the tone of your comments seems to imply frustration towards the financially secure. If this is true, I am suggesting that your frustration should be directed towards those who are actually wealthy and not those who have enough money to buy a house and solar panels.

[–] lntl@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Thanks for the consideration and explanation. I'm definitely not supportive of the ultra wealthy. What I would offer you in return is the idea that perhaps "the rich" aren't a small clandestine group of the 1%.

What if they are the homeowners in California with solar panels who prevent low income housing from being developed in their neighborhood because it might impact their property value?

Certainly Jeff Bezsos sucks, but he and his friends cannot be responsible for all the inequities we see.

[–] Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Jeff bezos laughed so hard at you calling people earning 150k rich that his life extended by 5 years

[–] lntl@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

who said 150k?

[–] Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No one I just took a guess. What income were you thinking?

[–] lntl@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago

id probably start with one half a standard deviation above mean income for a particular region and then make adjustments for dependents