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[–] Magiccupcake@startrek.website 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

But you still have it backwards.

We could very easily design and build a car that lasts 30 years. But we don't, because manufacturers don't want them to last that long.

Evs don't have transmissions, or complicated engines, and the wear on brakes is much less with regenerative braking.

Other things like air conditioning and interior coverings could be easily servicable

Why should the life of an ev by limited by its battery?

[–] frezik@midwest.social 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Cars get in accidents all the time, many of which will total it. Over time, the probability of that reaches 1.0. Most cars will not make it to 30 years regardless of how well they're made.

[–] Magiccupcake@startrek.website 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah and that's why I'm not advocating for 100 year cars.

I'd be pretty happy with 20 years to, but 10 just feels like planned obsolescence.

I also messed around with the math very loosly, and only accounting for crashes that total a car, they could be expected to go 20 years or more on average.

And that's now with all the terrible driving that happens, especially at night. With slight deacrease in accident frequncy that number can increase a lot.

So maybe 30 is a bit much for now, but I'd still like an ev that would claim to last 20 yeara.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Either way, you're complaining that EVs don't do something that ICE cars also don't do.

[–] Magiccupcake@startrek.website 3 points 11 months ago

The average car age is 12.5 years, so many of them are likely approaching 20

[–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Making cars repairable and making the parts swappable will extend other cars lives, especially if they standardize around certain parts like batteries.