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While they were happy with what the fairphone 4 brought to the table, they seem to like what was changed for the fairphone 5.
What are you guys' opinions on this? A welcome change? would you get one if your phone died within the next year?

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[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 0 points 11 months ago (3 children)

What can android do that you actually do that iOS cannot?

[–] sir_reginald@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

For starters, you can degoogle Android, you can't deapple iOS.

You can replace the manufacturer android with a clean, free software and secure Android ROM, like GrapheneOS. iOS is a black box, fully proprietary and controlled by Apple.

You can install apps from third parties on Android, like F-Droid. On iOS every app must be approved by Apple.

You can't use an iPhone without an Apple account, you can use Android without a Google account.

Android has multiple profiles support, which comes handy for completely isolating apps from the rest of your phone.

There's much, much more. That's just what came to my mind right now.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How can I download apps (not side load) from a store (play store for example) without having a Google account?

[–] sir_reginald@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You need a Google account just for the Play Store, given that it's a Google product.

You can download apps from other stores just fine: install F-Droid for example, or Amazon which has their own app repository too, and you'll be able to download and install apps from there. (I don't recommend using Amazon, it's just an example)

For apps on the Play Store, you can use Aurora Store which proxies the Google Store and does not require a Google account.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And you can prove that the binaries I receive are the binaries from the developer?

[–] sir_reginald@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

F-Droid has reproducible builds, so definitely yes. You can even check the exact code used to build every app on F-Droid.

The rest of stores, it depends. Every store has their own policy and the only one I recommend is using F-Droid or downloading directly from the devs' website or Github repo. There's an app to automate this process for updates too, so it's actually a quite good method.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

“deapple iOS”

Why would I want to make a secure device less secure tho

[–] sir_reginald@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

stop consuming Apple marketing.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 11 months ago

I like phone and do not use google. Not much needs to be marketed to me lawl

[–] Euphoma@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Personally, I like using the terminal on my phone, and the only terminal I found for iOS is extremely slow because its emulating linux.

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Euphoma@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What sort of things do you want to do locally on your phone that you need the command line for?

[–] Euphoma@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Simple terminal applications like ping or curl or yt-dlp. I also like using python -m http.server to access my files over the local internet. w3m sometimes works when my mobile data is very slow and can't load web pages. I also do use ssh a lot. I don't need it if I have an ssh app but it is nice to have, and I switched to android for it.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

For a regular user… basically nothing.

I quit google products and services a decade ago, so I was “relegated” to iOS, which… does basically the same exact fucking thing but better in every way. It’s spendy though. I also like their privacy stance, which is “we cost a lot but we’re not selling all of your data to advertisers”

I have not found a single thing I can’t do on iOS that I COULD on Android.

People spout WaLLeD GaRdEn and what I read is “privacy” and I’m in

[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago

They’ll complain about unauthorized developers…. Which I wouldn’t want anyway.