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[–] BlackSkinnedJew@lemmynsfw.com -5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Apple it's very far away of being a brand of privacy and security.

[–] wsweg@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Better than every mainstream alternative, no?

[–] BlackSkinnedJew@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

It depends in what you define as "mainstream" in my personal pov I would prefer to go for degoogled rooted AOSP for privacy concerns if you know how to use it there isn't anything better than it out there.

[–] wsweg@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I mean, of course, yeah. By mainstream I mean what your average consumer would purchase and use. They almost certainly will not be rooting a device

[–] subtext@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I am the family tech support and I certainly will not be rooting a device.

And I would almost certainly recommend Apple to my family for the “mainstream privacy”

[–] LifeInOregon@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Nobody would define that as mainstream.

[–] BlackSkinnedJew@lemmynsfw.com -3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I believe it depends on what exactly someone defines as mainstream, for me using degoogled AOSP it's something normal idk if it's mainstream but what exactly it's mainstream depends on the POV don't you believe? But in my humble POV definitely Apple it's not exactly all rainbows about privacy and security, unless you don't mind your "encrypted" stuff being seen by the CIA and the NSA of course.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Nobody would define that as mainstream.

[–] BlackSkinnedJew@lemmynsfw.com -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

According to my knowledge as Android have a bigger market share than iOS, then the fact Android would be more mainstream than iOS and getting a degoogled Android it's not as hard using ADB. Yeah I have exaggerated about degoogled rooted AOSP, sometimes I am a little bit sarcastic, but anyway, the point it's: nor Google nor Apple are trustworthy if you are really concerned about privacy, if you are just a normal person who will use the phone to storage pics of your fat wife or the big hotdog of Costco I don't think you will have a big problem about it, but if you are related to a political organization, a gov agency or you are doing anything illegal(or politically incorrect) I wouldn't recommend Google or Apple at all anyway.

[–] pup_atlas@pawb.social 11 points 11 months ago

Rooted, degoogled AOSP is definitively not “mainstream”. Mainstream to me means something you can but off the shelf and start using without having to modify it.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Are you kidding man? The options are things you can buy off the shelf and turn on.

If you are rooting, configuring etc you are off the mainstream

[–] BlackSkinnedJew@lemmynsfw.com -4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There is nothing what you can buy out of the shelf and turn it on which respect your privacy and security at all wo a minimum effort and knowledge by the user, nor apple nor google are trustworthy at all, I mean if you will use their "encrypted" clouds to storage pics of your fat wife in them there is no problem but I wouldn't recommend any of those big corps spyware out of the shelf to anyone involved into politics or really concerned about their privacy at all.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The fuck is wrong with you? You type like a child with carbon monoxide poisoning

[–] BlackSkinnedJew@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Sorry but English isn't my first lang. Anyway I believe you got my point. 🤣👍

Edit: Sorry about the hipotetic example of a fat wife but it's was just for reference nothing personal bud.

[–] Tempo@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Well, we know they're not, but the people that eat up all the ads Apple makes about their shallow privacy features you have to manually turn on don't.