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I will be the devil's advocate here and say that having the 8 Gb ram config on their cheapest machines (MBA, Mac Mini) is perfectly fine, but having it as the base config on the MBP is borderline false advertising.
This is exactly what the article said
For the price of a Mac Book Air you can literally get a better, more powerful laptop with 16 GB of RAM.
And if you don't need 16 GB of RAM you can get a significantly cheaper laptop.
Apple isn't worth its price. You're literally paying for the name.
My Dad's wife said she wanted the iPhone. Me and brother tried to tell her it's not worth it. She said she wanted the new iPhone because it's trendy and she can show it to all her friends. THAT is why people buy Apple.
The Apple M processors really are game changers. Not only are they fast but generate little heat and sip power. I'm a software developer and use an M1 Pro for work. When I went on the road with it the first time I forgot to get out the charger and plug it in when I setup at a table. Realized it at lunch and shocked I still had plenty of battery left it unplugged. I worked the entire 8 hour day on battery. You won't find an Intel or AMD processor that'll do that.
I still have my home-built AMD 5950x PC with Windows that I use for gaming and personal projects. I have Linux Mint on my home server. If I was in the market for a laptop that I was going to be using a lot away from my home desk, I'd get a Mac laptop just for the incredible battery life and performance. Apple takes advantage of people for what they charge for memory and storage but the Apple silicon is quality.
I used to use Windows a long time ago, it was always slow and crap. I also tinkered with Linux but I don't want to spend my free time (and some of my work time) troubleshooting. I like the idea of Linux, but for most people it isn't there yet. Windows is just bad.
Apple has created a situation where, for better or worse, they are both the software and hardware. Yes, you're locked in and pay for the name, all of that, but also they work. Really well. No troubleshooting, no bloat or slowing down. That's what people pay for.
I have used Linux single 3.5” floppy days. I don’t have to tinker with it at all. I really don’t. Used to sure. Not now. In fact, windows has become the one I have to tinker with most. It forgets my speakers, Bluetooth, etc.
Windows 11 forgetting my Bluetooth controllers constantly is part of the reason I switched to Linux.
Nothing competes with MacBook performance/battery life. Not even close. The M series chips are ahead of everything intel and AMD offer.
If you compare like for like with apple laptops you can't get an equivalent for close to the same price. Especially weight, battery life, processing and screen quality.
None of these are as bad as they were before, but Windows OS still sucks. Apple isn't selling bargain devices of any kind. They are more like decent investments (if you don't include the butterfly era).
I could buy a different laptop, but then I’d have to use Linux or Windows, which are not great experiences on mobile devices.
I could buy a different laptop and get a quarter of the battery life, because ARM and the M-Series chips are incredibly power efficient.
I could buy a different laptop but then it wouldn’t work with my phone, tablet, TVs, AirPods, etc, again, making it not worth it.
Complain about Apple all you want, but their hardware and overall UX aren't even close to being matched by other manufacturers.
From my brief stint with pop os on my laptop I'm having a hard time seeing the difference with a MacBook for daily things. Things just work.
Battery life. I worked an entire day - 8 hours - on my M1 Pro unplugged. You simply can't get that with anything but Apple silicon.
I have personally never met anyone who would admit to using something just to show off to their friends. I’m a hillbilly though so maybe it’s a bit different here. That type of talk is almost universally despised in hillbilly honor culture.
I use an iPhone because I like it. Plain and simple. They’re easy enough for me to do basic repairs (screen and battery replacement), and I have no interest in tinkering with it or anything like that.
I transitioned from the iPod to the iPod touch and the phone was a no brainer for me. I have photos going back over a decade and everything transfers easily.
Yeah, the anti-Apple crowd on here has this misguided notion that the only reason everyone buys Apple is “social status” - which while not a 0 factor, is definitely not the primary factor. If you’re going to be spending iPhone money you might as well get the best out there, which imo is currently the iPhone, but is an opinion that varies based on what someone uses their devices for
Indeed, some people are a lot more status oriented than others. Obviously not us because we're on this fringe hippy nerd site.
So one person might buy it for status, like GP's step mom. While others buy it for the camera, and some others for the security, etc. Not to mention combinations of those features!
I hope that here on Lemmy we can mostly avoid the "anti-others" attitudes that plague the other place.
If I'd be buying a practical phone I'd be buying anything but Apple. But sure, continue deluding yourself. Your bought yourself a good and fair product. Absolutely.
I use my phone for web browsing and a barely anything more. An iPhone is practical for my use case, if a little expensive. Personally I really dislike the android interface, and that’s enough for me.
Nice generalising there... given all my friends are Android/Windows users I wasn't trying to show off when I switched over, I just wanted an ecosystem that works when I want to do something... too many times in both Windows and Mint did I have to spend time setting up the system to do something instead of just getting on with it.
This is peak blind ignorant hate
Blind and ignorant you say? Sounds like I found the apple fan boys.
I've used several major Linux distributions, windows, and macOS. I've used Android, Windows Mobile, Windows Phone, and iOS. I've used watchOS and Wear OS. I do my consumer research and understand why people buy products. I don't blindly follow any group, I find out what I like and why I like it.
You just spew hate and ignorance with zero justification tied to reality. you come across as a fool, and you should not be happy about that.
This guy has never used Powerpoint on a Mac.