This post was made by Fediverse gang.
this post was submitted on 17 Dec 2023
538 points (94.7% liked)
Memes
45902 readers
1314 users here now
Rules:
- Be civil and nice.
- Try not to excessively repost, as a rule of thumb, wait at least 2 months to do it if you have to.
founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Aren't certain instances on Lemmy downvote disabled? I swear I've been on certain magazines on Kbin or the Fediverse where it's disabled by default.
Hexbear.net (spun off from r/chapotraphouse, banned on Reddit in 2019 for fascist propaganda), has downvotes disabled on their entire instance, so that's one. Please note that though they claim to be "leftist," their users' primary focus is spreading right wing propaganda via strawman and red herring tactics, usually in swarms.
Your take on Hexbear is absolutely correct
It's also something I've pointed out in the past that netted me bans on other instances (not just the community but the whole instance)
My instance has down votes disabled as well and it's something that has made me want to switch instances at times. Not to mention the admin really wanting to federate with Hexbear which is absolutely not popular with the users on the instance.
Oh wow, the blahaj admin wants to federate with them? That is unfortunate and more than a little disappointing. I'm sorry to hear that, I hope they figure it out soon and decide not to federate, because they'd just be exposing their users to fascist recruitment propaganda that is specifically tailored to the LBGTQ+ community. JFC, that would be awful.
The Hexbears' support for the queer community, as I'm sure you're aware (I'm saying this to promote general awareness), is superficial at best and in reality is a major part of their recruitment machine. They operate just like extreme right wing orgs: they target a specific disenfranchised group with the claim that they hear them, support them, and will fight for their rights, but in practice they take advantage of their already-present anger by funneling it towards a specific political target...in this case, the "liberal western world." The Hexbear ethos tells them that western values are the reason why they are being oppressed, and in the process they (somewhat ironically) become radicalized instruments of hate.
It's fucked up and really sad, and it's hard to get through to people just how dangerous this group is. A common defense is that the Hexbears are harmless because they think the Hexbear trolling approach is funny and that Hexbears don't come right out and say they are pro-Russia or deny genocide is happening in the world... it can be real difficult to get people to think critically and see past the manipulation tactics. But it's there, plain as day, it is a hate group.
But I digress. People need to know that these are not innocent good people. I will continue to speak out against these fascists, and I hope you do the same.
Well put, when I first came to Lemmy I remember seeing them and being confused that their actions were at odds with their stated goals.
Can you point me at the right wing propaganda on hexbear? Someone elsewhere in this thread said blahaj has downvotes disabled so that might be two.
It’s interesting to me that hexbear disabled downvotes because of downvoting campaigns against lgbt users, cultivated a culture of replying instead, federated with blahaj, broke with blahaj and now blahaj ostensibly removed downvotes.
Queer instance main sequence?
They were actually banned from reddit for posting “John Brown was right” memes implying that the radical abolitionist was correct to kill slaveowners. They can be excessive and annoying but they’re certainly not fascists.
Do you have a source on this? Everything I've seen them post has been left wing. Most of which was anti-capitalist and anti-imperialist.
There's a megathread on their front page right now dedicated to Joseph Stalin. Now, they'll argue all day over semantics and adamantly state that Stalin was merely a misunderstood communist, but functionally there's no difference between how he ran Russia compared to the shit going on in Germany and Italy at the time. The guy was a fascist dictator who murdered millions of people, including the members of the opposition he ordered to be executed. Not to mention the forced labor camps (Gulag), the censorship, government control of all media, state-authorized violence and murder...these are the things their hero did. They are in no way indicative of left wing tenets, nor are they merely anti-capitalist in nature. That shit goes way beyond hating capitalism...that is fuckin' fascism.
I'm aware of what he's done, but how is that fascist? Are you using some non-standard definition of fascism?
lol is this what you think happened?
That's the great thing, you can choose to join whichever instance you want or make your own.
Yes