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[–] nivenkos@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (12 children)
  • Tax accumulated wealth and use it to level the playing field (land value tax, inheritance tax, wealth tax) - it is accumulated wealth that should be taxed, not income.
  • Invest in education and research heavily, and focus on STEM + Medicine - stuff like algebra and programming should be taught much earlier.
  • Destroy the vestiges of extreme conservatism like monarchism and religion (still very prevalent in Europe).
  • Invest in Nuclear Fusion and electrification to alleviate environmental problems without "de-growth".
  • Punish violent crime much more severely (it shouldn't be the case that a few criminals can commit 100+ crimes freely).
  • Introduce a child licence for having children (like we already have for adopting dogs!)
  • Introduce ID cards, digital ID, full genetic sequencing and fingerprinting, etc. - this helps both criminal investigations and the delivery of services and healthcare.

The way things are going is scary though. My salary in real-terms has plummeted around 30% since I started a new job 2 years ago due to the weakening currency, high inflation, increasing utility bills (the energy crisis, and inflation), and high interest rates affecting the mortgage at renewal and the maintenance fee (that just went up 15% today!). And I'm lucky to still keep my job, I know a lot of people who haven't been so fortunate.

And then the so-called "Left" push for "de-growth" and reducing consumption - just making us even poorer (already living without a car is restrictive and a hassle, but it's so expensive now), doing nothing to combat violent crime, and more concerned with fringe issues like the LGBTQIA2S+ community.

I honestly think if things carry on like this we'll see the resurgence of real fascism as people face severely declining living standards and lose patience - just look at Zemmour and Bukele for example. And such concentration of power never works out well in the end.

[–] Kiki@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

You misconceive what is "degrowth", it is surely not about making people poorer, outside the rich... Degrowth calls for a radical reassessment of what needs to be produced vs. shrunk, how, by whom, for whom, and under what ownership system. So degrowth has never been about shrinking ‘everything’, ‘everywhere’. And it is not something we could do in the current system, there is nothing to compensate if we ban cars right now or tax carbon for the most vulnerable, hence degrowth is about redistribution.

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