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big collage of people captioned, "the only people I wouldn't have minded being billionaires"
names(and a bit of info, which is not included in the collage) of people in collage(from top left, row-wise):
- Alexandra Elbakyan, creator of Sci-Hub. perhaps the single-most important person in the scientific community regarding access to research papers.
- Linus Torvalds, creator of linux kernel and git, courtesy of which we have GNU/Linux.
- David Revoy, french artist famous for his pepper&carrot, a libre webcomic. inspiration for artists who are into free software movement
- Richard Stallman, arch-hacker who started it all. founded the GNU project, free software movement, Emacs, GCC, GPL, concept of copyleft, among many other things. champions for free software to this day(is undergoing treatment for cancer at the moment).
- Jean-Baptiste Kempf, president of VLC media player for 2 decades now
- Ian Murdock, founder of Debian GNU/Linux and Debian manifesto. died too soon.
- Alexis Kauffmann, creator of framasoft, a French nonprofit organisation that champions free software. known for providing alternatives to centralised services, notable one being framapad and peertube.
- Aaron Swartz, a brilliant programmer who created RSS, markdown, creative commons, and is known for his involvement in creation of reddit. he also died too soon.
- Bram Moolenaar, creator of vim, a charityware.
on the bottom right is the text reading, "plus the thousands of free software enthusiasts working tirelessly."
IMO RMS already has the attitude of a billionaire. He's a thoroughly weird man who says stuff he really shouldn't then stands by it. He's right about a lot of things when it comes to software, licensing, and open source in general but outside of that track he's more than a little loopy.
I think it might be because he's had to fight society so long for things he knew he was right about that now he doesn't know how to have people tell him "no Richard, that's ducked up".
Anyhow, I don't think him being a billionaire would be a good idea, him having enough funds to branch off into doing wherever strikes his fancy could be very bad.
And Linus, I love Linus but look at how he's grown as a person and listened and changed how he interacts with other kernel developers. Would he still have been as receptive if he was a billionaire? Something tells me no.
I understand your point, but those weren't the words he said. though I don't think that's going to make a difference.
I like RMS for what he did(and is doing) for the free software community. I can also talk about some uncanny things about Gandhi, but that doesn't make his contribution to the independence movement and his views on nonviolence any less relevant.
to me, a person should be seen in his entirety. because only fictional characters are without flaws.
People should indeed be seen in their entirety, the failure of this is why so many people get upset about Stallman.
The guy is routinely portrayed as a bastion of righteous good will, championing the little guy against the evil corporations. The hero worship is real.
Some of us see Stallman as a misogynistic asshole who routinely belittles people on mailing lists when they don’t agree with him and publicly defends people who sexually abuse children.
For some of us, it feels like we need to go out of our way to point this out because we don’t want a guy like that as the public face of something we care about.
what did ~~it~~ he say about women that makes him a misogynist?
Edit ok found this
https://www.arp242.net/rms.html
a pretty much reasonable, reasoned and merciless account on the figure of rms. I very largely agree with it - spoiler he isn't a misogynist, just a super massive weirdo
I once heard him described as "The smartest man to ever throw a tantrum like a 4 year old"
this thread is terrible... people reporting "I heard of"s as proofs. eh once I read, eeeh once someone told... once sjws bite, there's no chance they let go. and the most important thing is that 99.999999% of the people bad mouthing rms have at best fifth hand reports about him.
to all the superior etichs white knights: I'm not defending rms.
I'm very worried about the lynching, with proof based on I once read, i heard of, and also straight out of jealousy and envy.
rms, like suggested in the article I posted, could very well be a neuro divergent person. I wonder how many of all of these rabid dogs biting at him preach themselves as super supportive, super inclusive, 360° hexa-dimensional full rainbow, but then aren't able to understand the person they have in front of them. let's start by ruining someone. there's always time to say "I was wrong, I'd like to apologize. At the time I didn't know. I vow to be a better person."
Wrong person to post this in response to, dude
why, i thought you'd agree
Your comment came across as attacking me, and also as a little bit crazed. That said I completely agree with your last sentence, being able to admit you are wrong is a very important skill and one many people could do with learning (I try, I don;t always succeed but I try)
I agree with your point in spirit, but again, he didn't say any such thing. I haven't talked to him in person, so, I can only rely on internet to validate/refute those claims.
he is the public face of free software because others have their own terminologies(e.g.: open source championed by bruce perens and eric raymond), with which the GNU project disagrees.
Here you go, someone has done me the service of clearly laying out the case against Stallman here so that I don’t need to l: https://drewdevault.com/2023/11/25/2023-11-26-RMS-on-sex.html
Which he did not do.
Richard Stallman on paedophilia:
RMS on June 28th, 2003
RMS on June 5th, 2006
RMS on Jan 4th, 2013
Honestly I cannot see any way one could interpret his words like that
Richard Stallman on paedophilia:
RMS on June 28th, 2003
RMS on June 5th, 2006
RMS on Jan 4th, 2013
Aaron Schwartz too
https://web.archive.org/web/20031229025933/http:/bits.are.notabug.com/
wha?
you can read everything in great detail and with citations here if you have the bandwidth.
but I'm not sure if the commenter is mixing two unrelated accusations towards him.
stallman is known for his fixation on certain choice of words, which is the reason most people get him wrong. that's why I shared the link to read his exact words and make up your mind by yourself.
the man sure doesn't know how the read the room... and when to shut up.
He did not. Go find his exact words if you don't believe me.
Richard Stallman on paedophilia:
RMS on June 28th, 2003
RMS on June 5th, 2006
RMS on Jan 4th, 2013
Why don't you link his exact words, then?
Since the other person hasn't (surprise), here's Richard Stallman on paedophilia:
RMS on June 28th, 2003
RMS on June 5th, 2006
RMS on Jan 4th, 2013
Yeah I'm not surprised either haha
Thanks for the quotes, what an appalling man smh
Yeah. He had/has some great ideas when it comes to free software, but it doesn't mean he isn't a POS in other parts of his life.
I'm tired of the Linux world literally worshipping him. It's weird. Hilariously it's no doubt the same people who would cringe at the cultish following of Steve Jobs. Another person with some good ideas but was an awful person.