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[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 35 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Personally I think shopping carts are the penultimate litmus test. Returning a shopping cart requires effort, albeit a miniscule amount of effort. The ultimate litmus test is litering. It requires exactly zero effort to not throw your trash on the ground or out your car window. To me, littering practically screams, "I don't give a shit about anyone but myself. I have the self control of a toddler at bed time and I want everyone to know it which is why I throw my shit on the ground like a total fucktard."

I'm not really a confrontational person but I have rolled down my window and yelled at people for throwing their cigarette butts on the ground. You would think some people were raised in a goddamn barn.

I may feel a little strongly about this issue.

[–] roscoe@startrek.website 26 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

But there is a penalty for littering. Some people might refrain from littering not because it's the right thing to do, but because they don't want a fine.

The lack of repercussions for being a scumbag and abandoning your cart is what makes it a good test.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

If you're offended by a cigarette butt on the ground, holy fuck, you should have been around in the 70s. We have come so far and so fast.

When I was a kid, chunking your fast-food trash, any trash, out the window was perfectly normal. The sides of highways were covered in trash.

Further to go, of course, but I've seen solid progress.