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[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 18 points 9 months ago (2 children)

"Re-unify" is dipshit-speak for invade, pillage and crush.. for anyone wondering.

[–] Filthmontane@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Reunification of Germany was entirely nonviolent.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but they actually both wanted it.

Taiwan, judging from the enormous amounts of military material it has invested in, doesn't really want to be friends with china, let alone be conquered by it

[–] Filthmontane@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The Kuomintang party supports one China

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There is currently one China. It just goes by the name Taiwan. The CCP is as Chinese as my local takeout.

[–] Filthmontane@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You must be one of those people that can't accept when civil wars are lost. I'm assuming you're also waiting for the South to rise again.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yes Lost Causers are famously aware of world history. That must be it.

[–] Filthmontane@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you're aware of history, then how exactly is China not China? I must've missed a century somewhere

[–] SCB@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Read up on the resolution of the Chinese Civil War and the (nominal) government-in-exile that is Taiwan

[–] Filthmontane@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

At what point has enough time gone on before Taiwan is no longer a government in exile? Maybe 5-10 years, but that war ended in 1949. If you really think China and Taiwan should fight to death to determine who's the true ruler than I think that's pretty fucked up. Maybe you think the US should be a British colony again? Or maybe Ukraine should be part of Russia again? At this point the CCP has controlled China longer than the Kuomintang did, so I think that means they win.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you really think China and Taiwan should fight to death to determine who’s the true ruler than I think that’s pretty fucked up.

I think Taiwan should wait out authoritarian communism's inevitable collapse and then come to the rescue with real solutions.

[–] Filthmontane@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You're gonna be waiting a long time

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

That's fine. Democracy always wins in the end.

[–] Filthmontane@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yup, China will inevitably transition into a democratic socialist state, ceding the means of production over to the people. Not turning into a capitalist Republic that's controlled by wealthy oligarchs.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

China will inevitably transition into a democratic socialist state, ceding the means of production over to the people

Sure, Jan.

[–] piecat@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And Russia is trying reunification with Ukraine. What's your point?

[–] Filthmontane@lemmy.world -3 points 9 months ago

No, that's annexation, ya dingus

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Right, you're saying that in hindsight.

When a tyrannous dictator preaches reunification as a descriptor when outlining their future plans the context changes a bit. Hope that helps :)

[–] Filthmontane@lemmy.world -5 points 9 months ago (3 children)

That's pure speculation on your part. Xi specifically stated the goal is peaceful reunification.

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

speculation

Well when all the direct quotes I read don't match the history I have to speculate on what XI really means.

He said he wants to reunify Taiwan, he didn't send me a PDF of his specific strategy.

You're speculating that it will be peaceful with the same logic.

I still remember what was happening in Taiwan just a few days before COVID hit. Do you?

[–] Filthmontane@lemmy.world -2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The entire idea of reunification is that it is supported by the will of the people. I'm not speculating that it will be peaceful, I'm just pointing out what Xi said. You claiming that he's lying is speculation.

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You claiming I'm speculating is also speculation. Take your semantic garbage and share it with someone who can respect your thoughts.

[–] Filthmontane@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Your speculating that I'm speculating is also speculation! You are the one whomst engages in frantic semantic antics!

Don't be mad cuz you're wrong. Xi Jinping stated that he has plans to peacefully reunify Taiwan and China. How you want to interpret that is up to you, but the media wants you to interpret "peaceful reunification" as "violent invasion." If you want to believe that, that's on you.

I think China is more than capable of reunification of Taiwan peacefully and invading would be a real dumb idea. Also, according to their own news, only 48.9% of the Taiwanese people support national Independence. So there's definitely a possibility of China winning the people over.

https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/taiwan/archives/2023/09/02/2003805648

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

If you believe that then I have a bridge I'd like to sell you. In fact it's 2 for 1, but only if you buy by midnight!

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 0 points 9 months ago

Uhm, isn't a bridge the means of producing safe travel across a span? You should get the wall for owning means of production.

[–] dvoraqs@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Did they say how? Peace would be preferred, but the Taiwanese need to be willing to cooperate.

[–] Filthmontane@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

The Kuomintang party is willing to cooperate, while the Democratic party is not

[–] frezik@midwest.social 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

After what's happened in Hong Kong, why would Taiwan trust them?

[–] dvoraqs@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

Exactly my point