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Windows 10 end of life could prompt torrent of e-waste as 240 million devices set for scrapheap | ITPro (www.itpro.com)

submitted 11 months ago by IcedCoffeeBitch@beehaw.org to c/technology@beehaw.org

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Analysts have warned Windows 10 end of life plans could spark a global torrent of e-waste, with millions of devices expected to be scrapped in the coming years.

Research from Canalys shows that up to 240 million PCs globally could be terminated as a result of the shift over to Windows 11, raising critical questions about device refreshes and the responsibility of vendors to extend life cycles.

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[–] navigatron@beehaw.org 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Wanna come configure optimus for me?

[–] MJBrune@beehaw.org 2 points 11 months ago (3 children)

On windows it's trivial.

[–] psudo@beehaw.org 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think the disconnect here is that others are saying "they aren't supporting us," and your response is pretty much "lol, abandon what you're doing and go back to the corporations." A totally fair take, but how you're delivering it comes across as missing their point.

Also "it works on windows" is a terrible rebuttal in a discussion where you first say "it works fine on x11"

[–] MJBrune@beehaw.org 3 points 11 months ago

I think the disconnect here is that others are saying “they aren’t supporting us,” and your response is pretty much “lol, abandon what you’re doing and go back to the corporations.”

My point is that Linux does nothing to make it easy to support. Nvidia even has made an open source kernel driver. https://github.com/NVIDIA/open-gpu-kernel-modules Nvidia is doing a lot of work to support Linux and people don't seem to see it.

Also “it works on windows” is a terrible rebuttal in a discussion where you first say “it works fine on x11”

A question to configure Nvidia Optimus is also a terrible rebuttal in the first place. Optimus is blocked because Linux kernel doesn't want proprietary blobs. AMD has the same exact issue.

[–] Tau@sopuli.xyz 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The problem is that nvidia's drivers are shit but we couldn't do anything because for the longest time, for nvidia cards to work at a decent speed, it requires the drivers to be signed by nvidia.

We couldn't do anything and you are blaming us for that.

Now that this, AFAIK, has been lifted new things like NVK are emerging.

The problem has been reluctance abd uncooperativeness from nvidia, not the linux community

[–] MJBrune@beehaw.org 1 points 11 months ago

I'm not blaming any Linux users for that. I'm saying this is the trade-offs of Linux and they are unacceptable to most people.

[–] WeLoveCastingSpellz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Same on linux

[–] MJBrune@beehaw.org 1 points 11 months ago

So really a moot point, isn't it?

[–] WeLoveCastingSpellz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

on my nvidia linux laptop it works perfectly, thank you very much. (if you actually need help I can)