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Windows 10 end of life could prompt torrent of e-waste as 240 million devices set for scrapheap | ITPro (www.itpro.com)

submitted 11 months ago by IcedCoffeeBitch@beehaw.org to c/technology@beehaw.org

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Analysts have warned Windows 10 end of life plans could spark a global torrent of e-waste, with millions of devices expected to be scrapped in the coming years.

Research from Canalys shows that up to 240 million PCs globally could be terminated as a result of the shift over to Windows 11, raising critical questions about device refreshes and the responsibility of vendors to extend life cycles.

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[–] senseamidmadness@beehaw.org 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think you're massively over-generalizing here to make Linux look like an unstable mess. Rolling release distros are the ones that want you to read the patch notes. Arch is the poster child for those. Stable distros like Mint and Ubuntu and elementaryOS don't brick your system with every update. They hold back updates and stick with older kernels to ensure stability. Linux is, already, very good. It sounds like you haven't used it for any length of time. Valve's work on Proton has made Linux gaming viable for a whole lot of people, but the majority of computer users don't play intense video games. They want web browsing, email, office software, that kind of thing. Linux does those just great on almost any device all the way down to Raspberry Pi boards.

[–] MJBrune@beehaw.org 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I used Linux as a daily driver for 5 years and was a FreeBSD porter for 2 years after that. I've been using Linux every year to pop in and see the issues and their current state. In this year alone, I've seen issues with Fedora, Linux Mint, and Manjaro. Hell, even right now the Fedora Live installer won't launch on my desktop. It hard freezes before it can even get the installer up.

[–] senseamidmadness@beehaw.org 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Have you considered that you might have Bad Vibes? Maybe the installer is afraid.

[–] MJBrune@beehaw.org 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

If the installer is that easily scared off then it doesn't deserve to be an installer. I treat the Windows installer far worse.

[–] senseamidmadness@beehaw.org 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

In seriousness, I have used Mint as a daily driver for probably 7 years now and I have found only the MATE and xfce flavors to be properly reliable and stable. Cinnamon, no matter how many times and on what hardware I've tried it, has a lovely habit of crashing and freezing at random times. For normal desktop tasks, Linux Mint xfce has been more reliable than any Windows I've ever used.

[–] MJBrune@beehaw.org 1 points 11 months ago

I used to use XFCE religiously and since I've been popping my head back into Linux after moving to Windows, I have noticed I've been on Gnome and KDE far more. my XFCE days felt far more stable. That said, I don't think the DE is solely to blame.