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[–] SexyTimeSasquatch@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

We just normalized the suffering and shunted the most vulnerable into its path.

That isn't what happened. We developed highly effective vaccines that keep you from dying and reduce your chance of serious illness and/or long covid. Hospitalizations for COVID have absolutely cratered faster than cases have. Like, the rule they made is fucking stupid, they deserve to eat shit over it, but you don't have to completely mischaracterize what we did as a society in pushing back against employers being shitty to their employees.

[–] Rivalarrival 58 points 1 year ago (1 children)

COVID isn't the only disease passed by aerosolized droplets. The availability of a COVID vaccine is irrelevant.

My feelings are this: if anyone feels like they should wear a mask, I absolutely want them to wear one. Whether that is for their risk from the public, or their risk to the public, if they think it's needed, it is needed. Err on the side of caution.

[–] somethingsnappy@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Agreed, particularly on the point of want to wear mask, do so. Let's take back what freedom means. Also, I work in vaccine development, primarily focused on respiratory diseases for oh these short 20 years. We all get all the recommended vaccines because we understand what that means. About 30% of us still wear masks, and are always allowed to join meetings online instead of in person.

[–] unwellsnail@sopuli.xyz 25 points 1 year ago

I'm not mischaracterizing I'm illuminating an issue many have overlooked. Yes, the vaccines are effective against most variants at reducing serious illness and death for many. But they aren't preventing infection or long term impacts from infection, have waning effectiveness, and there are many for whom they aren't effective enough or at all (those vulnerables I mentioned). Many are still dying every week and last info we had showed in the US about half of those dying were vaccinated.

This part is mostly a rant- Covid (and others diseases) disrupts lives and can cause serious medical complications for many, yes even now. Those people's needs have largely been ignored, now and before covid. We have a better understanding of how disease spread impacts everyone and how we can prevent it. We learned these lessons at the expense of millions of lives and instead of honoring that and implementing changes to better all our lives we're squabbling over inefficient vaccines that many won't take. I'm pro vaccines, but they're currently not a solution to covid.

[–] digitalgadget@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What if the vaccine isn't effective with your body? You're not allowed to protect yourself?

[–] irmoz@reddthat.com 6 points 1 year ago

Of course you are.