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[–] C126@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Why does deflation bring your wealth down? If I saved miney in a deflationary period my purchasing power would go up. Deflation means the amount of goods you can buy with the same currency increases over time, inflation means the amount of goods you can buy over time goes down. So actually deflation makes your wealth go up it seems to me.

[–] prime_number_314159@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you already have money, deflation is good for your net financial position, sure. If you work for your money, deflation could mean your boss has to either cut your wages, or fire you. Even if that money can buy more, people are very unwilling to take a pay cut.

That means if there's a sudden (but small) drop in productivity in an industry, inflation can paper over it, and deflation amplifies it, and potentially means the industry collapses.

[–] 100_percent_a_bot@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

One additional factor is that there is only a slight delay for prices to catch up with inflation but a major delay for wages to rebound. In a roundabout way inflation allows companies to cut wages without it feeling as shitty to the workers. This is why the central banks throw on the money printer when they fear an incoming recession.

This might seem unfair to the workers but is usually the preferred solution over tons of people losing their jobs.

[–] LanternEverywhere@kbin.social 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

It's good for you in the very short term, but bad quickly after that. It makes everyone want to hold onto their cash because your cash becomes more and more valuable the longer you hold on to it. So people start buying way less, and businesses bring in less and less money, so they lower prices more to try to entice you to buy, but the dropping prices only make you want to wait to buy even longer, this keeps spiraling downward and businesses keep bringing in less and less money, and so very soon they have to start firing people, and then more and more companies wind up out of business, causing more and more unemployment, and on and on and on, for everyone involved it all goes very bad.

https://www.forbes.com/advisor/investing/what-is-deflation/

[–] Perfide@reddthat.com 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It makes everyone want to hold onto their cash because your cash becomes more and more valuable the longer you hold on to it. So people start buying way less

This is the part people always lose me when explaining deflation is bad. Why would I suddenly be holding on to cash just because it's "worth more"? Why would I be buying way LESS than I do now? I would still have bills to pay, I'd still have groceries I need to buy, and since all of that would be cheaper I might even have enough left after to actually buy things I want rather than need. Maybe I could actually afford to eat out every now and then, unlike now. Maybe I could actually afford to support the game developers I like instead of pirating everything. The average person doesn't have the luxury of hoarding money, if we were in a deflationary period they'd be spending just as much money as before, they'd just get more in return for it. Even in the scenario that I do save some of it, it would be for the purpose of saving up for a big purchase like replacing my shitty car, which isn't an option at all atm.

No, deflation by itself is good for the average person. It's the outside factor of billionaires and corporations trying to maximize every last cent of profit that makes deflation a bad thing... and what do you know, it's the same billionaires and corporations throwing inflation into over drive with their excessive price gouging.

I don't know maybe it's just me, but it sure seems like neither deflation nor inflation are the problem here. Both situations have their own unique challenges, but the thing making either a totally dire situation is the greedy billionaires and corporations. We should do something about that.

[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago

Your problem is with consumerism.

Entertain for a minute the though of a world with absolutely no consumerism or financial elites where no-one ever buys anything unnecessary or made of plastic.

In a deflationary scenario, everybody holds on to every dollar they make which they don't have to spend on nevessities. Savings account are worse than the underside of the mattress, since deflation means negative interest rates by definition.
So where do you find the money to finance medical research, new roads, or anything that would return a future net benefit to society? Money under a mattress serves no purpose to society whatsoever.