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And that they will federate with them ? (Can't seem to find it anymore at least)

I wonder how many people we're gonna lose over this, because I for one, spent time blocking what I wanted to, to curate my feed, and it took time. I already migrated once, I'm not gonna do it again because some people can't realize how toxic it's going to be when they federate with us.

I see a lot of people saying they'll just switch instances but haven't seen anyone say they'll just jump ship, am I alone ? Or maybe I'm missing an option that would allow me to transfer all my settings from one instance to another ?

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[–] JustSomePerson@kbin.social 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I for one, spent time blocking what I wanted to, to curate my feed, and it took time.

If that is your general approach, why are you suddenly so eager to hand over that responsibility to the instance owner? Why are you pushing for that instances should curate the feeds of all their users, rather than the users themselves?

[–] NOSin@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Fallacy much ?

Because I don't want to be federated with threads doesn't mean I want to hand over the curating to the instance owner, there's such a thing as nuances.

I also formulated a wish for world to defederate, but my solution when they didn't is to leave, you don't see me brigading for them to absolutely do it, so please do not lend to me what I didn't say.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Then you can block threads yourself, as a user. It's as easy as that. Blocking threads on the entire instance makes it so admins are curating content for users. You don't get a choice when an instance defederates, you do when it federates. Defederation is a last resort, not a panic kneejerk reaction.

[–] NOSin@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Calling defederating Threads a "panic kneejerk reaction" is being very ignorant about who they are and what they do.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

It is exactly that. Nothing happened yet, and people were calling for defederation already. It is a panic reaction.

[–] NOSin@lemmy.world -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So you are very ignorant about who's behind Threads, how they operate and what they do, roger

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

And you are very panicked, going off of the "slippery slope" fallacy and basically doomsaying, got it.

I told you already - block them yourself. Nothing changes for you, and people who want an actual userbase to interact with aren't blocked by it.

[–] NOSin@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Calling very justified wariness about Threads "doomsaying" is naive, at best.

If I let you keep going you're about to tell me that Facebook and Instagram aren't that bad, so let's stop here.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I said it before, two times actually. Block them and move on with your life. Other people want to interact with threads.

[–] NOSin@lemmy.world -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Or move to a wiser instance that already defederated with them.

Now I'll block you, because not only you're a broken disc that doesn't take input into account, you're also short sighted.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Yes, you can block me, that's exactly the point.

Bravo, move to an instance that defederated from them, you will be in the exact spot as you would be if you personally blocked threads.

[–] EdgeRunner@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If we are not on Facebook or others its not for nothing. Theses reaction are not panic 🙄.

Politics, convictions, ideology are words too.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

These reactions are for nothing. I personally don't want to be a part of a dead social network with just the extreme kinds of people. This is an opportunity for the fediverse to grow and diversify. All that people are doing is being scared of any change - which is a dumb approach to it. When there is a reason to defederate - then defederate. Don't do it "because it's meta".

[–] EdgeRunner@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah yeah, why are you here and not on reddit, if I read u. Lmao.

End of the discuss for me with you. You can DV now, you reddit user ;-)

And next time, answer instead of going around BC you are "wrong"

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

Yeah, you are just discussing in bad faith or are a weak troll, I don't care either way.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Calling defederating Threads a “panic kneejerk reaction” is being very ignorant about who they are and what they do.

What they do is not to federate with anything at all because that feature isn't even implemented on their end.

[–] EdgeRunner@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Learn how the tool works before.

If you block an instance, u can still interract with the users (with the new features), and they can comment posts on others instances and yours, and you will see them.

You will just don't see the Thread specific content.

You are the jerk here

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Great job insulting me. I can perfectly fine block people from a specific instance and not see their posts or comments at all.

[–] EdgeRunner@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah yeah individually, block the billion from thread. Lmao. Don't say you are wrong, when you are.
🙄

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world -5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You can block entire instances and their comments won't appear to you. You don't need to block "a billion people". Just the fact that you want to block them says a lot about you - preffering an empty echochamber to an actually working fediverse.

[–] EdgeRunner@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Read again the entire discussion, answer next. What you are saying is wrong. You dont know how work Lemmy v0.19 obvisously

If you block an instance, u can still interract with the users (with the new features), and they can comment posts on others instances and yours, and you will see them.

You will just don’t see the Thread specific content.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world -3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I already have instances blocked. I see no users from those instances. I see no posts from them. No comments from them. Stop trying to tell me the sky is not blue ffs.

[–] EdgeRunner@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What im saying is fact. You are just a liar. Lemmy.world is in 18.5 right now, you can't use the feature. And I doubt you have your own instances. You speak but you know nothing.

And the sky can be dark and red too, BTW.

You just dont care about input and reply, to your comments, you take any of that in count. And you are adding a layer of lying. Ok.

You are blocked.
Finished with you.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world -3 points 8 months ago

Good riddance. I can easily block an instance in Sync and have been able to do that forever. And I don't see comments from those instances. But that's the issue with people like you - you can't think critically, only "your reality" exists.

[–] willya@lemmyf.uk 3 points 8 months ago

You guys are arguing two different things. You’re blocking with an app and EdgeRunner is telling you how the latest Lemmy works by default. Which isn’t deployed on lemmy.world yet.

[–] EdgeRunner@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Defederation is a last resort, not a panic kneejerk reaction.

🙄🙄

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yes that's how the fediverse works :)