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[–] tills13@lemmy.world 65 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I've found people vastly overstated how much range they need. 99% of usage is in the city between home and somewhere else. 250km is perfect if the price is right.

[–] Sestren@lemmy.world 41 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (6 children)

For daily use, sure - but it completely excludes itself as an option for road trips in the US and parts of Canada. There's a stretch of interstate road near me with nearly a 100 mile gap between service stations.

I know that this isn't the purpose of this battery, but it's a valid reason why a lot of people might be hesitant to buy one. Many people can't afford multiple vehicles for different purposes. You have the car you drive to work with, and if you happen to go on a trip you just use the same thing.

Maybe 99% of use occurs within constraints that this battery can handle, but if you can only afford one vehicle, then this is still a pretty suboptimal option. That being said... it could still be cheap enough to not matter. I didn't see any mention of price in that article.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago

If 99% is covered by this then cover your last 1% by renting a vehicle has that ever occurred to you ?

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Maybe we have to settle for suboptimal solutions from time to time to save the planet?

[–] ImFresh3x@sh.itjust.works -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That’s not how car sales work. People want EVs without major downsides. Until that’s what’s available we won’t be see EVs surpass 10% market share.

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I know, people are not willing to comprises for the good of the planet. That's why we're so fucked.

[–] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 0 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

They should raise the driving age to 30. Then people would understand what a privilege driving really is.

[–] krakenx@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (3 children)

A solution to this would be an extra expansion battery that you could buy or rent as an add-on only when needed.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 38 points 10 months ago (2 children)

...or rent a vehicle with the fuel savings from driving your EV most of the year, and skip putting a couple thousand km on your car over a long weekend.

[–] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

This is what I do.

[–] Buttons@programming.dev 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

You still pay the cost of driving a car a couple thousand km though, right?

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

Most rental places in the states don't charge mileage iirc

[–] Threeme2189@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago

If we're going all in with expansion packs we should add a rumble pack as well 😏

[–] greenmarty@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

or don't buy city car for intercity trips. Get li-ion powered cars or wait for them to make model with bigger range.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 9 points 10 months ago

Just use Communauto for those once a quarter out of town trips.

[–] greenmarty@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

It seems to me that car in the article is relatively small city car. I can imagine that building bigger car with inter city travels in mind would also include an improved range.

[–] IHadTwoCows@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Most of the pollution problem is in cities with lots of vehicles. EVs dont do as much for their purpose at the hindredth meridian where the great plains begin...driving down a cordoroy road, weeds standing shoulder-high

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Exactly. We have two cars, and we only need one to have any kind of range. The other is fine with 250km/150mi range, but it needs to be relatively inexpensive to buy and repair. It'll just be for a daily commute and around-town driving, no expectation for long-distance.

It doesn't need space for people or stuff, just 2-4 passengers is plenty. It'll strictly be for commutes and small trips to the grocery store and whatnot, the other car can be used for larger trips.