this post was submitted on 28 Dec 2023
467 points (87.0% liked)
Asklemmy
43944 readers
518 users here now
A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions
Search asklemmy ๐
If your post meets the following criteria, it's welcome here!
- Open-ended question
- Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions. Assume best intent and be excellent to each other.
- Not regarding using or support for Lemmy: context, see the list of support communities and tools for finding communities below
- Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members
- An actual topic of discussion
Looking for support?
Looking for a community?
- Lemmyverse: community search
- sub.rehab: maps old subreddits to fediverse options, marks official as such
- !lemmy411@lemmy.ca: a community for finding communities
~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~
founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
What about climate change? Murder rates going down is nice, but murders impact individuals. Climate change impacts civilizations.
I feel like every time people say "yeah but it's overall getting better" is missing the first for the trees. Because, yeah, what about climate change? Or the general trends in global politics?
Pretty big topic but it's improving in most regards. Things may seem bleaker but that's because oil lobbyists have changed strategies from denying climate change outright to trying to convince people that it's hopeless. This in and of itself is progress.
Here's a smattering of other facts:
It is not too late, and for the first time, we are actually starting to win.
A little context on point one: annual CO~2~ emissions have more or less flattened out, but that means that the growth has stopped. We're still emitting more CO~2~ per year than ever in history. (And it's hard to say how durable that trend is, since it occurred over the years during which the pandemic drastically curtailed some of the top-emitting activities.) That's a long, long, long way from net-zero.
The decrease in per-capita emissions from rich nations is consistent with the pattern observed for many pollutants. As economies gain wealth through polluting activities, the rising standard of living causes people to demand less pollution, and improving technology can meet the demand. The trick that we need to pull off here is for the wealthy nations to spread that technology as rapidly as possible to developing nations, so that they can increase their own standard of living without going through the polluting phase.