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People tell me oh youtube prem is reasonable but I know that yt is just going to raise the price bit by bit and everyone will accept it because they have no other option.
I dunno, Piped has been a very good other option for me.
Don't forget NewPipe for Android, Yattee for Apple devices, SmartTube for most Android TV boxes, Playlet for Roku, and Invidious for PC (if you don't like Piped).
The only (usable) platform I can think of without a ad-free YouTube client is maybe webOS for LG TVs.
(some of these clients are also missing some features because they are new, but they should all be better for watching than the official app)
I just tried installing SmartTube on my Chromecast Ultra today and found out it can pair with YouTube revanced. This fixed my number one issue with revanced where the cast button is not working.
Omg really? Does that mean I can finally watch YouTube videos on my Nvidia shield again? I have to try this out now!
You can enable it from settings -> remote control in SmartTube app. Also, if you're using YouTube revanced, the cast button might be hidden because it was not functional. You can re-enable the cast button on YouTube revanced from revanced settings.
When casting a video, you'll have to open the SmartTube app in your Android TV first because it's not automatically launched when you hit the cast button in YouTube revanced. If it's in the background or not yet running, the video won't play.
Got it installed and running. So nice to finally be able to watch YouTube on the TV again.
Also don't forget https://github.com/revanced it even has a manager for updates.
That too! I just don't use it myself because I find NewPipe works well enough for me. However, I should still try it out eventually to see if I'm missing anything big.
Front ends aren't really an alternative option. You are still using youtube. Youtube will continue to try and stop ad blockers and shutdown these Frontends. Eventually they will be successful. The more inconvenient they make it to use these technologies the more people will pay for yt prem. The only option is to start making the very painful switch to alternative platforms.
Even twitch has work around so they are welcomed to keep trying until they are successful.
What is the workaround for twitch?
Here's one https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/apk-mod-5-0-twitchmod-twitch-app-modification.4129481/page-8
I don't watch twitch so I can't attest to its effectiveness.
When unlock stopped working on Twitch I watched everything in multistream. No ads lol
thank you for sharing, also that seems like a helpful site in general!
As with all monopolies/cartels/prohibitions unsatisfied demand always finds alternatives. If the rules get in the way people circumvent them. Youtube premium price increases will create a bigger demand for ad blocking. Just as the balkanisation of streaming services and reduced value will return many people to piracy. The people who run these organisations are idiots who destroy brands and shareholder value to get short term attention and bonuses.
Youtubes changes are successful. Less people use ad blocker and more people are using yt premium.
There's so many people who dont want to constantly keep looking for work around and having their sites break etc. Once one person in their family buys yt premium then it makes sense for them to get a family plan.
My issue isn't with youtube running ads or charging for their service. My gripe is that they built their website as a free ad based service and out competed everything else based on that. Then they slowly ramped up ads and monetization once they had a monopoly and they won't stop squeezing.
In my eyes the only ethical solution is a distributed competitor where users can pay for the service of streaming videos but can't be forced into a single vendor. For example if one peertube instance started charging to much then you could move to another.
I pay for Nebula but watch nebula creators on Youtube. Watching on Youtube boosts them in the algorithm and gives them a small share of premium and it is more discoverable. The problem with distributed alternatives is that using them would disadvantage creators on youtube which is their primary outlet. We may need to concede that unlike Reddit or Twitter that clearly can and should be replaced by distributed alternatives, Youtube has proven to be a natural monopoly and as such needs to be regulated to protect consumers and creators from monopolistic abuses.
I dont know how people would switch off youtube. Youtube would need to shoot itself in the head or even a chance of people leaving the platform. Maybe creators could unionize or a new form of media could dethrone it.
When I tried Odysee I also did the same. I subscribed and viewed the videos on odysee but would pause and watch on youtube to save odysee bandwith and ensure that the creators I like that are pretty small wouldnt be hurt.