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[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 17 points 10 months ago (4 children)

How do people indicate without it? Is the car supposed to automatically turn it on once it senses you leaving the lane?

[–] arc@lemm.ee 37 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

It has little buttons on the wheel for left or right instead of a stalk. Problem is when you're going through a roundabout you're twirling the wheel around so it is almost impossible to to know where the buttons are at any given point in time. A stalk stays put, the buttons are anywhere depending on where the wheel is at. I think this video demonstrates it most clearly - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBFxbKTEWu8

[–] Trollception@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Do you fully rotate the Tesla wheel though? I know with electronic steering racks it's possible to control the car like an F1 is driven so you never need to go hand over hand to make a turn. The steering is speed sensitive and at higher speeds the wheel is less responsive. Lexus is introducing this in the US on a model. Does the Tesla not have the same?

The video you posted has a circular wheel versus the thumbnail of the post has an F1 style wheel.

[–] arc@lemm.ee 7 points 10 months ago

The wheel in a Model 3 has a typical steering wheel motion 1 1/2 rotations or whatever either way - you have no idea where the buttons will be at any given moment especially on a roundabout where you could be rolling right, rolling left and having to signal at the same time. Even if it were steer by wire and yoke like, the buttons are still moving around. So drivers have no chance of indicating safely or as the law requires. Basically all of this nonsense so Tesla can cheap out on a stalk which is probably a $10 part.

Which is why I think they should be banned or recalled in Europe.

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[–] Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago

In the article it says they replaced it with force touch buttons but the driving instructors all found the buttons to be disorientating and dangerous on roundabouts whilst trying to turn the wheel. The stalk makes for a mich more fluid and less distracting method.

Tesla believe that no turn signals will be needed once they perfect self deiving cars (likely never....)

[–] jasondj@ttrpg.network 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

What the fuck is the point of an indicator after you’d already started the action. That light ain’t indicating any more about the driver than the fact that they bought a Tesla after 2022, and that tells you everything you need to know about them.

[–] bane_killgrind@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago

That's just too late to signal...