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If DPRK is field testing their missiles in Ukraine that lets them confirm that they can effectively bypass NATO defences, and that's a nightmare for the occupied Korea. (www.thedrive.com)
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[–] davel@lemmygrad.ml 45 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Does South Korea have any significant vanguard party right now? Have the workers developed class consciousness?

I don’t think South Korea has anything to worry about in the short to medium term, because I can’t see North Korea making the mistake of rolling tanks into a country where the masses aren’t ready to welcome them.

[–] FamousPlan101@lemmygrad.ml 44 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The leader is very unpopular, his approval rating is currently 20% approval, 71% disapproval according to Morning Consult, reaching lows of 18% approval, 75% disapproval.

Also there have been strikes against neoliberalism, US robbing the country, anti-war protests and getting the president to resign. Ryomyong.com covers resistance to him. http://ryomyong.com/index.php?page=south

As for a SK communist party, there's http://pdp21.kr/ but it's small, there's also Anti-Imperialist National Democratic Front which is an underground DPRK org in SK.

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 25 points 10 months ago (2 children)

As for a SK communist party, there's http://pdp21.kr/ but it's small

For reasons relating to South Korean Law, there are no communist parties in South Korea. Any political party in the south should not be colloquially called a communist party.

The People's Democracy Party of South Korea for example calls itself a progressive party that calls for pacifism, increased national autonomy from American interference, women's rights and liberation, and a more democratic government that better represents the hard-working citizens and agricultural specialists of South Korea.

So let us be respectful of the PDP and South Korea's laws by not calling any progressive party a communist party. Because that would be illegal.

[–] FamousPlan101@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

It signs solidnet.org statements.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

and workers' parties

janet-wink

[–] FamousPlan101@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Those are all ML parties:

Worker's Party of Korea in the DPRK

Workers party of Bangladesh

Workers party of Belgium

Russian Communist WP

Workers party Ireland

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Still not a communist party.

[–] FamousPlan101@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

It participates in the WAP as well which only has Marxist-Leninist parties.

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

obviously not because it contains Marxist-Leninist parties, and one progressive party.

[–] FamousPlan101@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

it's 100% communist internally

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They quite openly declare they are not communist internally or externally, because communists are illegal in Korea.

[–] FamousPlan101@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

They call themselves "communalist" ;) ;) and reject social democracy http://pdp21.kr/?p=116863

Communitarianism is the goal and democracy is the means and method. The goal of the People's Democratic Party is a world of community where everyone lives equally well, and in order to realize this, the entire people, including the working class, must increase their role as owners. Human society progresses from a community society to a non-community society and then back to a community society. If a community society without military occupation, political domination, or economic exploitation is the first positive stage in a society that reflects the archetype of human independence, we are scientifically convinced of the dialectical process that goes through the negative stage and then again to the negative negative stage. In Choi Chi-won's Nanrangmi Preface, “Gukukhyeonmyojidowalpungryu,” that is, “There is a mysterious way in this land, and it is called Pungryu,” we confirm that there is communality at the root of our nationality. . We oppose the social democratic concept of publicness and emphasize the communalistic concept of commonality

Literally describing the transition of humanity from primitive communism to communism with a lot of winking.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Worth noting that the British SDP describe themselves as "communitarians" too, and they suck ass.

[–] FamousPlan101@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 10 months ago

They aren't even leftist though

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Were I to discuss the party in the future, I'd follow your suggestion regardless, but are the words of anglophones on the internet really what is keeping the occupation government from killing the PDP?

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is more to help keep unnecessary active awareness of non-state actors away from our work whenever members of the PDP travel abroad, in addition to avoid the stigmatization that comes with Koreans being communists in a world where the DPRK exists as one of the most propagandized AES states on earth.

Imagine being a Korean, and when telling someone about your ethnicity they without fail in the first sentence ask "North Korean or South Korean?" or some variant along those lines. Other than that being a part of my and many korean-american's lived experiences, it serves as a constant reminder that Communist Korea exists as a constant in the minds of nearly everyone in the West. It does pay to be careful sometimes lol.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 5 points 10 months ago

Thank you for the explanation, that makes sense.

[–] kredditacc@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 10 months ago

Does Korea have their own "Vietcong"? By "Vietcong", I meant the National Liberation Front of South Vietnam that was extremely popular with the South Vietnamese populace, especially in the countryside.

Without a "Vietcong", I can't imagine any way that DPRK is going to unify Korea.

[–] duderium@hexbear.net 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

The DPRK is popular in the ROK, but it’s hard for me to see North or South Koreans supporting another Korean War. Most South Koreans, in my experience (lived there for years and married one as an ESL teacher) view Japan, the USA, and (sadly) China as the enemy.

[–] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 10 months ago

The DPRK is popular in the ROK

It is? Does the average person see through the propaganda?